MB & Other Magazines

[redpmgParticipant @redpmg]

Hi All , received Jan issue today – not bad considering the time of year. Envious of all the shows in UK – nothing like it here . Saddest news for 2019 was the demise of Beale Park as a MB venue . Shows were great despite getting smaller – wonder whether they will stlll host the Wooden Boat Show? First saw a turbine powered Bluebird there – about 2005 – but the pond (lake) was too short for it. Maybe EL can work out whose. Glad that Mid Thames MBC has found a new home.

Have a couple of issues with the last few copies – firstly the article on a submersible is a word for word repeat of the the article in MMI from Jan 2003 secondly from the show report on Montignac it would seem there are no French MB magazines. To the contrary there were 3 (subscribed to before it got too expensive on a pension) – two at least are still going strong . MRB and …?Le Bateux …not sure of RC Marine. Interesting articles which even if you cant speak /read the language still made sense. Sure the French modellers would find that with MB too ……….

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[redpmgParticipant @redpmg]

[The Long BuildParticipant @thelongbuild]

In fairness to Mb if it was used in another mag in 2003, 17 years ago that is a long time ago and many things get reposted on forums only after a few months

I myself as a few others are more concerned that some of the old faithful's from the MB mag seemed to have become Persona no Gratis, however their loss and others gain .

It is interesting what happens, By chance I was looking at a plan from MMI last night , a sub called " Undine " in MMI Oct 2001, then again in I think a special and was now called " Undine ", I have both plans and they are the same other than different ref Numbers..

Trying to decide which to build but am probably going to build Spook, but jazzed up a bit more than the original.

[redpmgParticipant @redpmg]

Larry – if it was a few page article – not a problem – but either the contributor or the editor knew it had been published before. The space over 3 issues could have well been used for articles by the old faithfuls as you call them plus technology has moved on a lot since 2003 as regards submersibles -( there is for instance now available a brushless motor in a drive pod which runs under water, {it resembles a steerable Kort nozzle} ).

Like you and a lot of others am also concerned re some old faithfuls becoming persona non grata.

As a semi retired forensic accountant only too aware that magazines have to make a profit to stay in business – but you also have to sell the magazine using good articles…….

At one stage MMI seemed to become a model yachting magazine with a few other articles thrown in – hence subscribing to a US magazine instead……..I and a lot of others I know did not renew…………until that particular editor moved on………..

A few times have seen articles from France/Belgium published in MMI a few years after they appeared in MRB or RC Marine – that was wholly understandable. Actually quite funny to compare them and how they were translated……….

You might think of trying out the new technology on your sub – can always fasten the pod to the stern with no problems re leaky drive shafts etc

[Empire ParkstoneParticipant @empireparkstone]

Thought brushess motors could run submerged anyway?

[Ray Wood 3Participant @raywood3]

Hi All,

Editors can't know as much about what's been published over the years in all titles as we do, If we have been reading for 40+ years in most cases

RCM&E have been re-publishing the old aeroplane designs as free plans from the archives over recent years.

Regards Ray

[Lindsey AmraniModerator @martynchorlton3]

Posted by redpmg on 16/01/2020 10:15:03:

'Larry – if it was a few page article – not a problem – but either the contributor or the editor knew it had been published before. The space over 3 issues could have well been used for articles by the old faithfuls'

Well the editor didn't, until the first part was published and I had already commited to a three parter. I'm an editor not a model boat magazine historian with unlimited resources and an archive to envy!

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

It's not Martyn's fault, some people are a bit naughty and take advantage. I never realised it had been published before either but then I rarely used to read MMI. It's by no means the first time that a contributor has tried their luck on both magazines with the same material, sometimes they have even submitted to both at the same time! It didn't do their chances for future contributions any good though.

The series of Special Issues I edited a few years ago relied heavily on 'recycled' material, much of it decades old but that was intentional and made clear as such since few of today's readers would have seen it and it was still of considerable interest.

Colin

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

“It’s a bit naughty” is not strong enough for me. If people can’t submit original copy, then they are submitting articles for th3 wrong reason, ie, financial gain only.

i have no issue with recycled material, as per specials and so on, as Colin says some of this material is very interesting. It is a source of several models at Bushy.

Ashley

[The Long BuildParticipant @thelongbuild]

Ok, I must be missing something here, what page is the artical on

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[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

It was run over three issues last Autumn.

Colin

[The Long BuildParticipant @thelongbuild]

Thanks Colin, that explains why I could not find it in the Jan 2020 Issue

Personally I found it quite interesting, and appear to have missed that one as I only ever purchased the MMI mag on the odd occasion if something took my interest, which that would have done.

As I mentioned before it is 17 years old and I doubt but a few would remember the article, however it would have been better if the writer had revisited it and possibly updated it maybe.

As I say I did find it interesting because I like quirky models and it renewed my interest to get the one I started some years ( 2009) ago finished !!,see below pictures , not sure why there is a jetex motor in the last picture !!

however I still have a few projects on the go, not least a Blue foam Model !! which I will complete this year, its not as if I really have a lot of work to do on it .. .

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[redpmgParticipant @redpmg]

Martyn – I do have a very extensive archive – both paper & digital . Browsing through sections at a time is quite interesting as things evolve . You are more than welcome to contact me if you have any "iffies' in future – will help if I can . There have been a few other instances of the same article in MMI and MB but they occurred within months of each other – obviously submitted at the same time as Colin said………

Hope the "gentleman" in question has been barred from any further contributions

Colin – I have no issue with the publication of old articles in the specials – they are of interest and as Ray says not all of us have been reading MB for 40 years. Only comment would be that it would have been nice to have a "new" free plan from the archives too .(One that had never been given away before.) Do you think there will be any specials in the future ?

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[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

It isn't always the author's fault. I have written a considerable number of articles over the years, and one publication that I stopped writing for about ten years ago has taken to occasionly putting some of my old articles in again, but it was not my idea, and I didn't get paid for the repeated ones. This doesn't bother me at all, as I had been well paid during my ten years of one article a month. I only stopped because I was finding it hard to produce one a month without repeating myself. They were not about model shipbuilding, but were of a nautical nature.

Bob

[redpmgParticipant @redpmg]

Bob I agree with you there – not always the contributor – years ago subscribed to an American MB magazine – there was one 3 page article that was repeated less than a year later – obviously a filler as all the illustrations had all been changed to disguise the fact – but the wording was exactly the same. Said magazine went out of production some months later – with 5 months of my subscription left………..

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