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[Tim Ford 2Participant @timford2]

Hi,all

thought i would drop in a say hello, im planning my first scale rc build to begin 2018, im thinking , tug, trawler, any suggestion for a supplier, i,ve made a few plank on frame models in my early days but want a good project.

Thanks

look forward to dropping in

Tim

[Tim Ford 2Participant @timford2]

[CookieParticipant @cookie15923]

Welcome to our forum Tim , There are a abundance of highly skilled model boat builders on this forum who i am sure will be only to willing to advice you on anything from boat design to RC electronics should you need it .I am not sure of your location but Scale Hobbies in Skelmersdale Lancashire do a wide range of high quality tug kits.

Dave

[Kev.WParticipant @kev-w]

If it's a tug you desire, try **LINK** they specialise in tugs

……. or have a look at **LINK** they carry a good range of all type of vessel, RC and static.

(other suppliers are available)

Edited By Kip Woods on 04/11/2017 17:26:58

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Hi Tim and welcome. There are any number of designs out there, but the main requirement is to build something you LIKE. There is nothing wrong with starting with a tried and tested kit/plan/model, but do not follow the crowd, that's what I say (and do).

Any project has to be something you really want to build otherwise the enthusiasm for it wanes after months of struggling with the hull/deck/motor/whatever.

That's my advice!!

Ashley

[Trevor Drabble 1Participant @trevordrabble1]

Tim , Have sent you a PM . Trevor.

[Tim Ford 2Participant @timford2]

Hi, all.

I have considered my experience regarding my first scale build , i was thinking of a tug boat but think it may be a little too much, so i have gone for a Tyne class life boat, the hull and plans have been ordered. would be nice if you could give me some pointers, i actually have hundreds of question regarding the project, first question is, once i have the hull should i strengthen it by adding ribs, the rest will wait for now..

many thanks

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Tim

Writing as a bloke who has designed one or two models I would advise you to follow the instructions and plan TO THE LETTER. The very worst kind of questions are from some poor soul who's strayed "off piste" because of the 'advice' of someone who has impressed him with a lot of apparent knowledge {aka bulldust}. These folk have often never built the model in question and are merely quoting someone else's advice out of context. As a newbie you wouldn't know the difference.

I usually write in my forewords, "don't forget that I've built at least one more of these than you have". It should be the first sentence in any set of instructions!

Dave M

[Byron Rees…(Ron)Participant @byronrees-ron]

Hi Tim.

I totally concur Dave. I get lots of queries after an article in the Magazine of one of my models because people don't follow instructions (or even look at them sometimes!!) . Always read and follow instructions on the plans or in the kit, Tim.

If you decide to have a go at a simple Scale Tug have a look at my Rhondda article…Model Boats March and April 2017. you cant get much simpler than that, it also looks lovely and goes like dream. As a designer like Dave M (above) I can assure you we spend a lot of time and effort getting it just right for potential readers to have a go at.

cheers…….Ron.

[Peter Mason 3Participant @petermason3]

Hi all,

I'm returning to model boats after over Fifty years of aeromodelling. I have built a number of boats of various types in the past. Vic Smeeds 34'' RTTL is the boat chosen, however the plan shows a DC Rapier Diesel engine and I know that these are regarded as environmental poison. So my question is: what electric motor to use and what type, and what propellor.

[Tim Ford 2Participant @timford2]

Hi all
Well my Tyne class life boat has arrived with a set of nice clear plans, im studying the plans to ensure im clear on the detail before i jump in.im also trying to understand scale which i must say is alittle confusing, so my first question is, the plan states the scale as 5/8 to a foot, when i read the info on the net every thing seems to be written as 1/12 , 1/18 ect, sarik hobbies state the boat is 31 inches long,secondly, when trimming off the waste plastic from the hull would i need to leave a few mill to aid the attachment of the rubber that is around the boat, many thanks, many more dumb questions to follow im sure…

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Tim

That's a very odd scale. There are 96 eighths-of-an-inch in a foot, and each foot of your model is represented by five of them i.e. scale is 5/96, which doesn't cancel down any further. The nearest would be 1/19, which is also an odd scale.

Google tells me that a Tyne Class boat is 47ft long. That's 564 ins, and 5/96 of that is 29 3/8". That's quite a significant difference from 31". Sounds like the whole thing is cock-eyed. I wouldn't bother about it as long as you like the model and are happy building it. You'll need to compromise on the scale for any fittings and figures, though.

DM

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

HI Dave

it is the Dave Metcalf ABS moulding set that Dave produced and I believe was written some many years ago as a build project in Model Boats magazine over a few months. perhaps Colin might be able to tie down what months and year………..think possibly in the early /mid 1980's………and if not available in back copies it will be found on ebay by the numerous traders. I read it some years ago and found the articles interesting

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Yes – it did sound like a Dave Metcalf sort of scale.

I guess the logic was that 1/24 scale (1/2" = 1ft) would have been too small at approx 24" while 1/16 scale (3/4" = 1ft) would be too large at just over 35" – so he plumped for halfway. It's just a quirk of the maths that "halfway" is NOT 1/20 scale.

Why complicate things when, with a little more effort, you could make them completely impossible?

Dave M

[Tim Ford 2Participant @timford2]

Hi, All

ive paid a few visits to my local model boat building shop to glean as much info regarding my boat, lots of input from all who was there, so ive got some good starting points, the general thinking is the model is a 1/16th, but for now i,ll just copy each part from the drawing, so moving on is it a good idea to use suitable ply wood for the deck and structure because im finding it a little difficult to cut the plastic im using for trials.

[Malcolm FraryParticipant @malcolmfrary95515]

When I divided 564 by 31, it came out very near to 1/18 (actually 18.1935). Still an odd scale, but its four times 1/72, or 1/6 inch to the foot, a very common model scale, so its on a series, even if nobody else uses it. The very odd fraction of an inch to the foot scale quoted might well be the nearest you get to 2/3 inch to the foot without having a ruler calibrated in 1/6th and 1/3rd inches, which is rare.

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Tim. You could usefully make a post on Colin's thread "how do you choose a new boat" topic as you are going through the process??

Ashley

[Tim Ford 2Participant @timford2]

Ashley, im having trouble finding your suggested thread, please point me in the right direction, are you thinking i should have a build log

[Malcolm FraryParticipant @malcolmfrary95515]

Posted by Tim Ford 2 on 29/11/2017 20:25:27:

Ashley, im having trouble finding your suggested thread, please point me in the right direction, are you thinking i should have a build log

It's in "All things floating" and titled "What to build next?", http://www.modelboats.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=132059

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Yes thanks for that Malcolm, I should have been a bit more specific!!

Tim, not a build log (although that would be nice), just a short précis on how you have decided which boat to build, see the thread.

Ashley

[Tim Ford 2Participant @timford2]

Hi, Guys

need to ask for a little help, as the above reads, im building a tyne class life boat, im basing the model on the Ruby and Arthur Reed 2 that was based at corby, the build has moved on a little but i want to add the Trim Tabs that show on all the research photos i have but the plans dont really show these, SO, does any one have the measurements to make them and how the tabs are attached to the under side of the hull

Regards

Tim

[BanjomanParticipant @banjoman]

Tim,

Unfortunately, the RNLI archives in Poole no longer (or at least not for the time being, anyway) have their collection of available original lifeboat plans listed online, like they used to; however, if you cannot find the information you are looking for elsewhere, it might be worth your while to get in touch with them: **LINK**. When I looked a while back at least, they certainly offered to sell copies.

It might be that for the moment at least they require one to come to Poole; this certainly used to be the case if one wanted to use their collection of photos. I've no idea how close or or far you are from Poole, but should a visit be necessary, I dare say it might be turned into the occasion for a nice day out …

In any case, you could perhaps try giving them a ring or sending them an e-mail to find out what's what?!

Good luck and good hunting

Mattias

[Ray Wood 3Participant @raywood3]

Hi Tim

These photos taken at Ramsgate a while back, the trim tabs are bolted on the transom, I'm not sure which class it is but I hope it helps.

Regards Ray

[Tim Ford 2Participant @timford2]

Hi, Ray

Thank you for your reply, i believe the boat pictured is a Mersey Class boat, sadly i couldnt really get any ideas from the pic, all the same its a very good pic, ive gone with the all the info ive got and the internet, so gone in with the cutter hope it turns out looking like the real boat..

[Tim Ford 2Participant @timford2]

After much deliberation and research ive finally completed the trim tab recess , the size has been a bit of a guess but im happy, once cleaned up the next job i will cut the tabs them selves,

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