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    KEVIN JONES 13
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      @kevinjones13

      Hi, can anyone confirm that I have faulty receivers because I have just connected two new hi tec servos to 3 sepparate tamco receivers and all three receivers only allow the servos to work on channel 1 whilst the servo arm on the second servo just moves to the full ark when connected to any of the other channels but I can not control it. Both servos work correctly on channel one so I do not think that the servos are faulty.

      I am using a new 4.8 aa 2100 nimh battery to power the receiver and the receivers are up to 4 years old. Seems strange that all three receivers could be faulty but you never know ! Thanks in advance for any help.

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      #5540
      KEVIN JONES 13
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        @kevinjones13
        #79053
        Kev.W
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          @kev-w

          Can you connect these receivers to another handset & try again?

          This would rule out the transmitter being the faulty item.

          #79055
          Dave Milbourn
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            @davemilbourn48782

            Kevin
            I'm assuming that all three receivers exhibit exactly the same problem. If so then the logical answer, as Kip infers, is that the transmitter is faulty because it's the only common factor. One faulty Rx would be bad luck, while two would be suspicious and three is highly improbable. Have you changed or recharged the batteries in the transmitter recently?
            Dave M

            #79058
            KEVIN JONES 13
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              @kevinjones13

              Thank you both for your quick replies, this evening I shall double check that I tried all three transmitters and their receivers and then swap them around, the batteries are fully charged .

              #79062
              KEVIN JONES 13
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                @kevinjones13

                I have now done what you both suggested but the same problem persisted. I then tried the rcs back in their original models and all three worked perfectly on the escs and rudders so thankfully they can not be faulty. I feel as if I am at fault or I have missed some piece of equipment out or I am having a senior moment, I would pull my hair out but there is hardly any left.

                What I am trying to do is control an Aeronaut model yacht called Bella, I assumed that all I required was a rc transmitter and receiver, batteries and 2 servos. I bought 1x 4.8v aa 2100 nimh battery with a NX83 charger for the receiver and of course I had 8 aa rechargeable batteries for the transmitter which I have checked with a battery tester, the nx83 charger glows green when the battery is charged, I bought 1x Hi Tech HS645mg servo and 1x Hi Tec HS311 servo as they were recommended on two other builds of the same yacht on the Model Boats website. If anyone can suggest where I have gone wrong I would be happy to receive their advice, thanks in advance.

                Edited By KEVIN JONES 13 on 24/09/2018 23:35:36

                #79066
                Kev.W
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                  @kev-w

                  Personally, I would not be using a HS645mg servo as a sail winch in a boat the size of the Bella, but that's beside the point.

                  The only other thing that comes to mind, is that you are using a 4.8v batt. & the 2 servo's together are dragging too much power for the Rx to get the 5v it needs to operate.

                  Not big on electronics, so will cede to someone with better knowledge.

                  #79079
                  KEVIN JONES 13
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                    @kevinjones13

                    Thanks for your answer. Do you think that it will be ok fo me to try using a 6v lead acid battery ?

                    #79084
                    Gareth Jones
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                      @garethjones79649

                      Kevin,

                      I think a 6 volt lead acid battery would be much too heavy. A 6 volt pack of 5 AA sized Nimh batteries would be much more appropriate.

                      Gareth

                      #79086
                      KEVIN JONES 13
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                        @kevinjones13

                        Gareth, Thank you very much for your advice, Kevin.

                        #79087
                        Malcolm Frary
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                          @malcolmfrary95515

                          A big high torque servo will test the battery and wiring to the limits, and might well hog the power, stopping anything else from working. I discovered this when sorting out my first Victoria. Higher torque servo to be able to actally sail in wind that would make the boat go. Then a new battery pack because it wasn't man enough for the new servo under load, followed shortly after by a new wiring loom because the current that the new battery could supply was too much for the old wiring.

                          I usually mutter about servo testers, but in this case, just plugging standard servos into the receiver instead of the intended ones to test what is really working or not might be the best test. A servo with an arm on it makes a very good test meter to see if the output from the radio is as expected. Of course, the servo tester is good for checking that the servos actually work…………

                          #79093
                          Dave Milbourn
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                            @davemilbourn48782

                            HS 645 is rated at 350mA "running current" @4.8v and 450mA @ 6v. Whether or not these figures represent the current under load – as opposed to just running unloaded – isn't stated on the datasheet I found. Neither value appears unduly high but the Tamco receivers may be delicate little things which are only intended for low-power servos.
                            The problem seems to be that when both servos are connected into a Rx then only Channel 1 works. Eliminating one or the other servo as the possible cause would seem to be a reasonable thing to do. Have you tried connecting just the HS311 into Channel 2 i.e. leave the other servo out of circuit altogether? Try also connecting just the HS645 into Channel 2 and see if that works. If channel 2 or higher still refuses to operate either of them in isolation then I'm at a loss to know what else to suggest. It is perfectly possible to run a high-power servo using its own separate [high-capacity] battery pack, but that would be a step beyond isolating the 645 as the culprit.
                            Sadly it's all a bit empirical but there's so little published data on these cheap Chinese radios [aka none] that there doesn't seem to be a more technical way of trouble-shooting them. I try to eliminate as many potential compatibility problems as I can by sticking to just one reputable manufacturer; in my case it's Hitec.

                            Dave M

                            #79099
                            KEVIN JONES 13
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                              @kevinjones13

                              Thanks Dave for going to the trouble of looking into my problem.

                              I tried the servo hs311 on channel 1 and it works.

                              On channel 2 and 3 it moved full ark automatically but I had no control of it thereafter.

                              The same thing happened with hs-645mg.

                              It looks like I will have to buy a new and better quality R/C set and a stronger battery, as well as giving thought to compatibility. All three of the Tamco sets that I have operate the servo and esc in my other boats.

                              Edited By KEVIN JONES 13 on 26/09/2018 21:07:11

                              #79105
                              Malcolm Frary
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                                @malcolmfrary95515

                                A servo, if working properly, can only do as it is told by the receiver. This, in turn, only passes the message along that comes from the transmitter.

                                A servo getting no signal will twitch a bit on power-up, and sit there, twitching the same way at the next power-up, until it eventually gets to the end of its travel.

                                If it travels to the end in one go, it is getting a signal telling it to do that, and it begins to look like either the transmitter is sending an "out of range" instruction, or the receiver is translating its signal to something out of range. If waggling the stick does nothing, it could mean that the signal never gets to the point where the servo can respond.

                                Or there is something in the servo causing the problem. In my case, when something like that happens it is salty water where it shouldn't be altering the servo circuit.

                                #79110
                                Charles Oates
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                                  @charlesoates31738

                                  This is an outside long shot, but check the servo plug and the receiver pins on the duff channels are connecting properly. Loose or bad connections, or maybe the connectors in the servo plug not secured properly can result in glitches..

                                  Chas

                                  #79111
                                  KEVIN JONES 13
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                                    @kevinjones13

                                    Thanks Malcolm and Chas, Kevin

                                    #79114
                                    Eddie Lancaster
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                                      @eddielancaster

                                      Hi. All, As I have a Tamco Transmitter and receiver  and a couple of high power servos I thought I would link them up to see if the receiver was capable of running them both.

                                      The set up is a 3 channel receiver 2 channel computer transmitter, 5 cell AA NiMh battery, HS 785 servo and a King Max 5520 servo all worked OK admittedly with no load applied but the receiver is capable of passing enough current to run both servos at the same time.

                                      I hope this helps to answer some of the questions raised re. Tamco.

                                      Eddie.

                                      Edited By Eddie Lancaster on 27/09/2018 15:33:06

                                      #79121
                                      KEVIN JONES 13
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                                        @kevinjones13

                                        Thanks Eddie for going to the trouble of checking if Tamco R/C sets can handle high power servos, I think that I will try cleaning the contacts and try a stronger battery before going into any more expense, Kevin

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