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        #82934
        Colin Bishop
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          Welcome to the Forum.

          I think the Sirocco design would have been published late 50s/early 60s. Not a Vic Smeed design I think but Tony Hadley on here might be able to identify the relevant issue.

          Colin

          #82935
          Tim Rowe
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            Good to see you here on this forum Capn' Haddock. We have very recently been posting on the other site. I know you are a very active contributor but you will see this one has a rather more laid back pace.

            Will be very interested to see your builds.

            Tim R

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              #82952
              Tony Hadley
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                Captain H,

                The magazine item for Sirocco was featured in the June 1962 edition of Model Maker magazine, attached below. Like so many of these old items, there really isn't much information, I think the authors of articles in the modern magazine have to provide much information. The plan is still available from Sarik as MM704.

                Some years ago, I paid a couple of visits to the Windermere Steamboat Museum, which were a good experience. Only last night I was reading an old Model Boats magazine from December 1979. The article of interest was Basil Harley's 'Mabel' design which is a stand-off-scale model based loosely on the Branksome in the museum.

                sirocco.jpg

                #82954
                Ray Wood 3
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                  Hello Captain

                  Weston Models at Teynham Kent will sell you a marine ED Diesel if you like me love the aroma of ether and want to be authentic 😀

                  Regards Ray

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                  Colin Bishop
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                    But bear in mind that you might have problems finding somewhere to run it!

                    Colin

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                        Ray Wood 3
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                          Hi Captain,

                          Yes my suggestion 're the diesel was tongue in cheek 😀 I still fly diesel,glo & electric. Electric boats are fine I run them, but not much atmosphere, rather like an electric Spitfire !!

                          Cygnets at Mote Park Maidstone is our local lake that run ic boats

                          Regards Ray

                          #82961
                          Tony Hadley
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                            Hi Captain H,

                            I made a couple of visits to Coniston to photograph the Gondola and what a lovely steamer she is, A superb model was built of her in the 1980s and this was featured in the October 1984 Model Boats magazine. I can't remember the builder.

                            Wishing you every success with the building projects, Vic's 'Moonglow' should be a good project and if you manage any photographs when the model is finished or on the water, it would be good to see them.

                            Tony

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                            Chris Fellows
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                              Posted by Captain Haddock on 10/07/2019 20:27:44:

                              Colin/Tim

                              Thanks for the welcome. No Colin the Sirocco isn't a Vic Smeed design, it's from someone named C. Bingham. And i'm not that surprised it might be of 50's/60's vintage. So am I! A laid back pace is fine by me Tim…..

                              A bit of slight tinkering is called for the switch to electric power, but it looks feasible enough. It looks a solid job. No attempt at weight saving here, but I'm aware it's often necessary to add weight to boats to get them floating on their waterline.

                              And to top it all off, I just heard from a friend today that Windermere Steamboat Museum has re-opened, and is allowing the local model boat club back onto the purpose built pool……..

                              And once I've got the Sirocco built, I'm going to have a go at the Aeronaut Queen Cabin Cruiser. It looks gorgeous. From the reviews I've seen Aeronaut kits seem well sorted, and build well. They're also supplied with fittings, propshaft and prop. I have noticed some reviewers have upgraded the propshaft though. Why might that be?

                              Edited By Captain Haddock on 10/07/2019 20:36:06

                              Hi and welcome Captain H.

                              Boats of that era are solidly built to withstand the forces and vibrations from the IC engines. You shouldn't have to worry about adding extra ballast though, with the hull being a planing type, unlike with displacement hulls.

                              As regards the Aeronaut Queen, to make the kits viable, the quality of things like the prop shaft can be a bit borderline in quality and so it it is usually beneficial to upgrade to something better. Once epoxied in you don't really want to have to replace it prematurely! I for one have standardised on the Raboesch maintenance free ones from the likes of Cornwall Model Boats which are very good quality.

                              Chris

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                              Malcolm Frary
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                                Back in that era, it wasn't just vibration that happened – the motor mount and whatever the mount was fixed to had to withstand the rigours of starting with a lanyard round the flywheel. Embarrasing to pull it out by its roots. For electric, since electric motors are so much smoother in operation, a lot of lightness can be added around there.

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                                      #82976
                                      Chris Fellows
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                                        You might have to position the battery so that it sits at the correct angle on the water but other than that, as I said before, I would be surprised if you had to add any ballast. The shape of the hull means it is not affected much by reasonable weight differences and once on the plane it is irreverent anyway.

                                        Displacement hulls are a different kettle of fish as you do want them sitting correctly on the waterline.

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