Vintage Gentleman’s Cruiser

[David Tweddle 2Participant @davidtweddle2]

Posted by lnvisibleman on 28/05/2014 10:23:53:

I wonder if I can find a 1/12 scale model of a massive V engine ?

Mike

Like this one Mike…

David

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

I am not rising to the bait.

Ashley

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Come one Ashley you are our leading exponent on this subject.

[Peter FitnessParticipant @peterfitness34857]

Ashley's right, the subject of lubricating prop shafts has been done to death, and it really boils down to personal preference. I have made my feelings clear, as has Ashley, so we can agree to disagree.

Regarding Ashley's comment about stainless shafts – I use nothing else, mainly because I sail almost exclusively in salt water, and have seen the effect of salt water on bright steel, and even brass, shafts.

Peter.

[Ian JopsonParticipant @ianjopson21383]

Coming late to this build log, I skipped ahead – any chance of more progress photos? I ask out of selfishness, as I have a similar project in mind, based on a plan in an old Uffa Fox book, and need ideas.

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hi Ian

Alas I have been mired in other matters for a while and so there hasn't been much progress aside from drawing the keel and frames.

It hasn't helped that my adept cohort is off in his luxury motorhome and busy sunning himself in North Wales (and finishing off a couple of projects in readiness for Lyme Park)

I have no doubt that usual service will be resumed during the coming weekend.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Paul

Will you post a typical cross section, please?

I need something to think about……….I'm fed up with this flippin' Tennis!

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Captain Bob

What tennis? Have they opened Wimbledon just for you again….I thought you were in North Wales sunning yourself on various beaches.

Paul

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

Typical longitudinal cross section

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, Paul

I like the ABELL drive combo………But oh!….Those jagged lines!

Propshaft looks a little puny?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Chief Designer to workshop chappie.

I like the ABELL drive and I'm looking forward to seeing it in action.

Jagged lines….how many of those sherbets have you had today? and yet my lines are squiggly and I haven't had a drink in ten years.

Puny?? its a 12mm tube with a 10mm shaft all in 316 grade stainless steel with custom neoprene seals and mid length bearings. It will take a real engineer to build it….do you know one?

Paul

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Dear All

Bowing to popular opinion and upon Janes sage advice I am doing a U turn, after all its popular with politicians, and have decided to build the model at 3ft and offer the 5ft version as an option.

I still intend to use the ABELL twin motor drive so there will be plenty of power going through the single propeller.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

I suppose the latest pair of MFA700 may be a suitable combo, but they are a bit expensive

Have you noticed the strange timing adjustment?

We'll se how they perform

Bob

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Bob. I was given a special little 500 sized motor in a dinky fitted wooden box, and this has adjustable timing. I probably need 60A amp wires for it but ..

I wonder why you didnt just buy the normal 600 sort instead of these things?? they are quite expensive and my guess is they are right hot items….?

Ashley

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Ashley

We can blame the Chief Designer for this extravagaze!

We were having plain old 600's, but he said….."Why not splash out and get MFA700's?"

Got a feeling he didn't know what they were!

Anyway, we may have got the ideal motors, in this case due to the limited space left by the Brushless rubbish!

No problem, Paul……We like surprises!

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

Don't go blaming me for your spending spree.… I'm the design office not the buying department.

I only provide the information about what will fit in the space and it was your choice to go for the red hot choice.

But it will look good blasting down the lake……how will you get on sailing it at Lyme park where the rules ban fast boats?

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Only hope it does dash about the lake!

There are no rules about dashing about, we are the only club ever to have sailed at Lyme Park!

We are very honoured, actually

I`ll try and find a few old Lyme Park photos in the archives

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Captain Horatio Bob

The following is an extract from the Etherow Model Boat Club notes on Lyme Park.

They will NOT allow any IC engines or fast speed boats, anything else is fine.

With those motors on board Brutus will definitely fall into the fast speed boat category.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Fair enough, Captain

Found a few 2003 Lyme Park pix, but nothing suitable to illustrate the lake

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Dear All

Bringing the thread back to the original subject

The detailed drawings for the 1m version have started and as I haven't got the services of the workshop staff I will be doing the build blog myself.

If, as the project progresses, anyone wishes to build their own version of the cruiser I will be happy to email the drawings and templates to them, for free, so that they can do their own progressive build, it would be a bit like the Del Prado magazine builds but without the expense (you will have to buy your own materials though) all that I ask in return is, that providing you have enjoyed yourself, you make a donation to Christies hospital. 

The 'build along with Paul' idea looks good on paper but could end up as a complete dogs dinner so be prepared.

If you are interested in taking part just send me a pm with your email address.

Paul

Edited By Paul T on 06/06/2014 14:38:40

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

I would appreciate a copy myself, Paul, just to keep an eye on the "Lady Jane" project

What motors are you using?……..I`d like to get involved with the ABELL Combo motor……..With this device you will be able to get down in the scuppers with the propshaft?

And I`ll lay it out with TurboCAD

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hi Bob

The motors will probably be a pair of 550s (not MFA700s) built into the ABELL drive, I will send you the keel drawing showing the prop shaft / tube so you can detail the drive unit.

To those wishing to take part in the build you need an A4 printer and Adobe Reader, the drawings, templates and instructions will be emailed in PDF format so all you have to do is print them off (no Cad or drawing software required)

For the actual build you will need a suitable building board no smaller than 1100mm x 300mm x 50mm(thick) and some decent quality 6mm ply for the keel and frames.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Subcontract drawing office to Head Office

Can`t locate exact dimensions with mounting bracket for 550 motor

But have got a 555 motor and bracket in Ellie, which I could use?

They only cost £11.00 the lot

Shall we use a pair of 555 then?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Chief designer to drawing office apprentice.

On the face of it there is no difference in the mounting brackets between the 550 and 555 motors

So I don't see any problems in using the 555 and shall include it as an option in the specifications

Paul

Edited By Paul T on 06/06/2014 19:28:36

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

That`s excellent, Paul…………OK Boss

Can`t find dims for "A" and "B"…?

Doesn`t matter……I`ll measure mine

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