Vintage Gentleman’s Cruiser

[Mark Jarvis 2Participant @markjarvis2]

HI Bob

Following the curtain ring idea, i tried it out by running the ring over my belt sander, this flattened the inner and outer faces, beware it took some skin off my fingers when it slipped!!!!!

Mark

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Mark and others

Youv'e got to be lucky to find a curtain ring, the correct size

Bob

[Mark Jarvis 2Participant @markjarvis2]

Hi Bob

Have a look in Wilkinsons the have a large selection of different diamiters, only problem isyou have to buy a packet of 24

Mark

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thanks Mark

Too late, was the cry…….I've already made 'em!

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hello Captain Bob

Not seen any project progress photos for a while…..is the boat still in the garage or are you renting it out for canal holidays.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Paul

Just making heavy weather with the life belts

They were a bit tricky to paint……..Drying time was the problem………There's three days gone!

Two coats of varnish…..Another two days down the Swanee!

Got bored to death!……..A few more days and still not finished……lol

The boat is lovely to look at, delightful to sea!……etc

The handrails are next before the Grande Sail……..But we have a little problem…….The cabin is a bit wide for the hull!

Might have to mount the fixings on the outside of the hull?………Not a bad idea. Old Bean?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hello Old Bean

I must have missed an episode….how has the cabin become 'a bit wide' for the hull?

Confused of Lymm

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello CoL

Don't know the reason really…….Will do a drawings check and report back

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hello Master Magician

I must have missed more than one episode of this saga as the last time I beheld the hull and cabin together they seemed to fit quite well.

Have you been waving your wand about again?

Paul

What do you mean 'check the drawings' I think it would be better if you check the boat lol

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hark at him, folks…….Passing the Buck already!

I'm innocent until proved guilty!

Poor old Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Dear Old Bob

I'm not passing the buck…..just stating the obvious lol

Maybe we should have a little bet on who has cock-d up and the looser buys the first coffee at Haydock.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

OK, old Bean

No sugar in mine!

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

With a mighty clang the gauntlet hit the floor and the challenge was made, both contestants knowing that their reputations were on the line in this high stakes standoff.

Neither will back down until the evidence is absolutely incontrovertible and then the looser will hang his head in shame as he is banished from the kingdom for daring to question the accuracy of the imperious computer.

Flash from the bookies on who will loose…..the odds are

Bob 2:1

Paul 200:1

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

OK!…….Here is the proof, my little Coffee Bean

Looking at Former 4

With the coaming on the inside of the hull opening and the cabin wall, up against it and with 3mm hull wall thickness

The remaining dimension for the walkway is……….1.25"………That`s 15" in real life!

With a handrail, this leaves about 13"……….You won`t get thru that Mr Fat Controller!

On second thoughts……..I`ll have a shot of woskie in mine old Bean!………….Jim Bean, to be exact!…..lol

Now folks………Just read how he gets out of this one?

Innocent Bob

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

I am truly amazed that this thread has gone on for over a year and 170 pages yet the cabin is only now found to be too wide for the hull. The very first rule of making model boats is that you build the superstructure on the hull to make sure it fits. To my mind it doesn't matter if it was drawn incorrectly – surely one of the the main purposes of this build was to check the drawings and correct any errors? Are we really to believe that you've made and fitted curtains, carpets and a ship's wheel without even trying the top half of the boat on the bottom half?

Please tell us you're only joking Bob.

PLEASE!!!

Dave M

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

We need to have the Designers response, before it is deemed incorrect

You`ve all seen the build with the cabin on, months ago and nobody has said a word!

Even you, Dave!

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hello Capt.

The designers response

As you can see this is a detail taken from a cross section at F4.

Both the section and plan drawings show the same information.

Paul

Perplexed of Lymm

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Perplexed of Lymm

My drawing shows 35 mm from the coaming to outside of hull

But your figure of 35mm is still on the narrow side……Which is 16.5"

Is the designer happy with this figure?

I`m not saying the drawing is wrong…….Just a bit narrow to get the railings in?

Bob

Edit………..Like I said earlier………Fit the handrail stanchions on the outside of the hull?

Bob again

Edited By Bob Abell on 17/06/2015 17:36:02

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

You`ve all seen the build with the cabin on, months ago and nobody has said a word! Even you, Dave!

But would it have made a difference if anyone had said a word, Bob?

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hello Captain Bob

I am still confused as I cant see any dimensional problems or construction errors either with the drawings or with your boat

The one significant exception to the original drawings is that my design didn't have any handrails and so movement along the narrow side deck wouldn't be a problem.

I think this means that I win the wager and look forward to drinking my double espresso at Haydock.

Paul

[Andy CParticipant @andyc56856]

Hi All

For the life of me I can't see why I did this, but I have just been right back to the beginning of time. Well it felt that way anyway. From around page 45, Bob started to build the cabin and looking at the work in progress pictures the walkway is about 1" wide, from looking at the pics and going by my wonky eyes. Might be +- a few 1/32". Not anywhere in there did anyone have an opinion on, me included, and build went on, time flew by (not really flew, but you know what I mean). Fast forward (thank the heavens) to today and now Houston we have a problem. Not really a problem, still looks good with or without hand rails.

Anyway, enough from me.

Andy

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

So, if I omit the railings, the model is then correct?

So why are you declaring yourself, the winner?

Because I am a kind softy and don't like Expresso anyway…………..I declare the wager ……Null and Void!

I'll make up a railing anyway and see how it looks

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, Andy for your kind support

It does look OK as it is, but I've always fancied brass handrails

They finish a model off

BTW …..You could have looked in the album to study the build process!

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hi Bob

Going back through the progress photos everything seemed to be in order and the cabin looked to be sat at the correct distance from the hull sides.

The dimension check that you did today confirmed that your build is fundamentally the same as my drawings, and I have to say that I didn't expect anything else from one of your builds.

Just to clarify the situation are you happy that everything is now ok or do you still think that there is an error in the drawings.

Paul

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

It rather depends on the main means of moving from one end of the vessel to the other. If it is along the side decks then you need handrails. If it is through the accommodation then the side decks can be narrow (as they are) and you would have grab rails along the cabin sides/roof to facilitate moving around the exterior when handling the boat. You would also need securing points for fenders.

Colin

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