Vintage Gentleman’s Cruiser

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Tea Lady to Mr Thomason, sir

Couldn`t help overhearing Mr Bob talking about propshaft angles

He says his propshaft angle is 5 degrees and was making such a fuss………Never heard such language!

So I puts me teapot down and had a think………..

Supposing Mr Bob built a boat with a 5 degree propshaft angle and added some weight up front, so that the boat went down at the front and the propshaft was level with the water line

And suppose Mr Bob built up the deck so that it was level with the water line

And then Mr Bob cut away all the surplus hull underneath at the front

He would end up with a boat that looked normal, and it would have a level propshaft!

Mr Bob nearly choked on his cold cup of tea when I told him and he said I should have a word with you, sir

What do you think about the idea, sir?………….Mr Bob is gobsmacked and thinks it`s a brilliant suggestion!

Charmaine……..The Tea Lady

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Charmaine

Don't give up your day job, m'dear – and don't get drawn into this persistent personal persiflage. This is really a case of who can wind up whom the most (aka an irresistabell force and an immoveabell object). My money's still on Dr T, who has a more convincing line in techno-bull than Bobbable does in innocent stupidity. It's a close thing, though.

Two lumps with that, please.

DM

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, m'duck

The tea lady's story has some sense in it actually

I've never seen a model with a true horizontal propshaft……..Yet it is achievabell!

Wait till Paul gets here…….What will he come up with?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Dear Charmaine

I am sorry to say that your idea wouldn't work as when the surplus material is cut away the hull would become buoyant at the bow and rise up…putting the shaft angle back to 5deg.

By the way the hull that you describe before the surgery would be very similar to Brutus and I imagine that your idea has come from watching Master Bob build his superb version of that design.

Dear Bob

Don't be put off by DMs disrespectful comments as the pursuit of excellence should always be the aim of every true model builder, yes a steeper shaft angle would do the job but as we both know 'would do' is just an excuse used by faint hearted and the weak minded individuals who lack both the skill and wit to 'get it right'.lol

A horizontal propshaft is atchievabell as can be seen in many tugs and ocean going heavy ships the challenge is getting a horizontal shaft into a high speed boat without resorting to water jets or Z drives

My dear Dave

I had to look that one up

Paul

 

 

Edited By Paul T on 30/11/2014 12:42:17

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Paul

i don't you are right in saying that the material cut off would cause the model to sink down again…..Think again

I am convinced the idea would work!

Three chars for the Tea Lady

Mr Bob

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

My dear Dave

I had to look that one up

Paul

Thought you might………………. DM

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

The Rt Hon Capt Bob

Your loyalty to Charmaine is admirable and exactly what one would expect from a true gentleman.

Being such a gentleman I am sure that you will construct a prototype to prove the theory correct and I have every confidence in your ability to do this.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

That's a nice idea, Paul

I'll give it some thought right away and try and squeeze it in my heavy build programme!

Making good progress with the Lady Joyce build

The motor drives have been moved further back, because the motors were fouling the upper deck floor…..As someone mentioned earlier!

Going to make my own chunky propshafts using 10mm Aluminium tube with 6mm MS shafting…….I may fit SS shafts later

Shaft angle is 5 degrees…….Which allows room for larger props to be fitted if required

All up weight including, motor drives and 12v long stick batts is 36 lb max

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Work in progress……..

For a bit of fun………A peep at the motors through the back door

Should look quite lovely, seeing all those pulley`s and belts going round…..With music to our ears?

A few mugs of tea to follow shortly

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

More work in progress

With a bit of practice and forethought, this Fablon stuff ain`t bad at all

I applied the Fablon as soon as the varnish precoat had hardly dried

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

By special request….General view with rear canopy in position

I think Lady Joyce is looking very elegant………Well done, Paul

Capt Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

I didn't think that the fablon would work as well as it has.

As for the boat looking elegant the credit should go to Capt Bob as you have taken my basic design and improved it far beyond the original concept.

The photo taken from the front shows the curve of the bows to the best extent and I am really looking forward to seeing this boat slice through the water at Etherow

Paul

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

The bow has worked out very well indeed.

I have also used Fablon effectively on my Deans Steam Yacht kit. There are lots of different grains so it is usually possible to find one which suits the model.

Colin

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

I'm pleased to hear that Fablon has been used before….It has solved a tricky veneering exercise on the cabins

How did the Fablon behave with the passage of time, Colin?

The bows do look very efficient, which is Paul's trade mark

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob the boat builder

If you think that these bows are efficient just wait until you see what is coming up next. Whoever builds it will need nerves of steel to sail it.

Paul

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

I just varnished over the Fablon with polyurethane Bob. It hasn't peeled off yet!

Colin

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Another thing to add to the hardboard. Sticky back plastic.

Ashley

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

Stick it to the smooth side Ashley!

Colin

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Whoever builds it will need nerves of steel to sail it.

Paul

And a platinum bank balance to build it?
DM

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Paul……Sorry old chum……….You will have to wait quite some time before Lady Joyce is completed, before I even think about another model……As much as I would like

Lady Jane too important to be distracted…….It's nice, just dawdling along

I've probably got about two to three more months yet

The build as taken six months…..Thus far

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Dave

No platinum account needed for this build just good old fashioned model engineering skills and the ability to think in three dimensions.

Bob

No rush as the drawings have only just started and this one has to be fully designed and tested before being issued to the workshop.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Fablon covering completed and looking more interesting by the day

The lie of the propshafts also sorted out, but not brave enough to cut to length yet!

It`s about time we had a look at the rudders now

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

Bite the bullet and get those shafts cut.

The rudders are those flappy little brass things that are fitted behind the rudders.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

I`ll cut the propshafts to length after the rudders behind the rudders get sorted out

Have we got any dimensions for the rudder position…….Don`t think they are shown on the 5`- 0" layout

Still a very absorbing build

Bob

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

I`ll cut the propshafts to length after the rudders behind the rudders get sorted out

???????????? You should get more sleep, Bob.

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