Prototype build of ELLIE

[IAN_IParticipant @ian_i]

Hi Bob..

>>I like your Trident model btw…..It looks very well made<<

Thanks Bob.. been watching and learning.

Hope your local boat lake is surviving the weather.

Best regards,

Ian

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

A couple of pix for the SloMo 2 fan club

With first coat of varnish on the veneering

Notice also, the engine sub base has been discarded with?……Big improvement

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Nice looking varnish Bob and only 39 coats to go, what has happened to the fin?

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, Paul

The fin is being worked on and will be ready shortly

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

The final 'all up' weight of my diagonal planked and triple engine version of Ellie is 4.2kg (approx. 9.5 lbs) this is a little on the heavy side but the 3mm thick diagonal planking makes the hull extremely strong.

I am wrapping the model up for storage until next summer, a little disappointed that the scale guns haven't arrived from China but they can replace the wooden sticks in summer.

Took a few photos before consigning it to the shed.

Still not happy with the night fighter paint finish and the whole thing might get re-sprayed grey when it next appears.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Paul

Have you test floated your model in the bath?….How was the waterline?

Is the weight including batteries?

I like your model and the colour too

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Work in progress

Finally sorted out a cunning plan for activating the fin in synchro with the rudders

Picture coming shortly

Bob

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

Is that you in there Bob?

Colin

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

He's about the right proportion, Colin!

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

The MTB float test went well and didn't exceed the estimated water line depth, the design trim was achieved with the batteries in the second to rear compartment and all in all the model floated as expected.

I wont be able to test the speed and handling until the weather picks up but I don't expect any serious problems especially after the successful sailing of your version.

I am quite looking forward to seeing your SloMo version in the water….have you decided which motors are going in?

Paul

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Paul
"Ellie's" fame is spreading – see page 17 of the latest MB (Feb 2014).
Must get mine finished and wet.
DM

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Paul

Still undecided about the motors

I was hoping the motors for Brutus would be suitable for SloMo?

But like yourself, it's a bit too early in the year to think about sailing

The fun at the moment is in the building!

Bob

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

I hate to say it chaps, but there is a lot of building going on and no sailing. To my mind, a pair of standard 600 motors will not produce anything other than "adequate" performance for this size boat, and something should be placed in the water and thrashed ASAP…

We seem to be producing several none-too-light hulls without a speed test aforehand???? or am I talking rubbish (50% probability as previously discussed) ??

Ashley

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Ashley

We are enjoying ourselves at the moment, chatting and daydreaming about how the boats will look and perform!

We don`t really want to face the moment of truth just yet!

Like I said earlier, I`m making a pretty showboat for the club shows and regatta`s…..If it sails well, it`ll be a bonus!

Hope to show it at Ellesmere Port in March on the club stand…..and Haydock too……..Along with the rest of `em!

Might even get to meet Paul this time!

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Ashley

What you describe as 'adequate' is seen by the grownups as being scale speed and perfectly acceptable on most lakes.

However it would be a fairly easy task to turn Brutus into a speed monster by fitting larger motors or even some of these brushless thingies. If you wish to see one of these non-too-light hulls thrashed then I invite you to build one of them and show us how it should be done.

And with a mighty clang the gauntlet hits the floor…….will Ashley pick it up and accept the challenge?

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Careful Paul!

He might do just that!

Better for him to build…..TRITON?……eh?…………..That would be a sight for sore eyes!

I like the name……..TROJAN …..better?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

No worries Bob

Don't forget that the difference between northern and southern model builders is our ability to actually build big models.

The crowd is hushed as they realise that an insult has followed the challenge, with bated breath they wait for the reply, how will the southern pretender react and has he got the skills to build a proper boat or will he cry off claiming lack of workshop space.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Ha! Ha! Ha!…….Nice one, good Buddy!…..But there`s no chance Kid!……..

He`s too busy mekkin them Duckk things!

For Dee Day…….Who ever that is?

Bobb………Builder Of Big Boats

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

The Trident is a special project and just for my client and the name Trojan is reserved for a massive design that is tumbling around in my mind at the moment.

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

I am afraid that the "southerner" is not rising to take the bait and taking up any challenges, however they are delivered.

Us young `uns are busy building extraordinary craft of MORE THAN adequate power, and are leaving the building of larger, slower, boats to those north of Watford.

I can understand Bob`s statement about the moment of truth, but the truth will out..or will it…will there be a big cover up??

I am going to build a whopper for D-day make no mistake.

Ashley

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

And the crowd relaxes safe in the knowledge that when it comes to the crunch the southern pretender just cant deliver the goods or even assemble a pithy reply.

Definition of extraordinary: Extra meaning more, Ordinary meaning run of the mill, average = More-average

I am going to build a whopper for D-day make no mistake, We upint-north have a saying 'he talks a good job' and we wait to be underwhelmed by your whopper.

The crowd leans forward in expectancy….surely the southern pretender wont sit back and take this further insult, he must come back with……something!

Paul

What do mean OLD

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

As someone who lives just about exactly on the divide betwixt North and South (and it's not Watford) I find this exchange rather unedifying, if not downright racist. Allow me to level the playground……….

The way I see it is that Paul has a wholly realistic idea of the significance of his own geographical position, because when you look at a map Cheshire is much higher up than Surrey (or Kent or whatever God-forsaken wasteland Ashley inhabits). Greasy poles are easy when you're firmly established at the top.

With respect to building larger or smaller boats, I was under the impression that traffic volume and pollution force Ashley to use a bicycle to get to the stagnant puddle he uses for a boating lake whereas Paul has a chauffeur-driven Bentley (everyone in Cheshire has one of these, don't they?). He also has free use of the Manchester Ship Canal to sail. One wonders then what Ashley's idea of a "Whopper" might be – a model wider than the handlebars on his bike, perhaps? I'm holding my breath.

Oh – and D-Day was seventy years ago so you'll need some very fast-drying glue, Ash…………

Result? North 3 South 0

Ashley – You should know your place, but I don't want to know your age……………..please!!!!
Paul – OLD do mean what we both are (viz a viz age). Time only runs downhill, Dr Dude.
Both – keep the faith. Your tiffs are most amusing!

Dave M (Dons tin hat for incoming……………)

Edited By Dave Milbourn on 11/01/2014 17:23:10

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

Dave,

I am so sorry to disillusion you but to the likes of Ashley and myself civilisation ends at the top of the M25 so you are firmly in the 'there be dragons' territory with no hope of redemption. Paul is sadly even further into the outer darkness.

Down here, life is civilised and genteel. Our model boats gently kiss the water while proceeding around the pond in a stately and dignified manner under a cloudless sky and gentle breeze. They are launched and recovered with courtly bows to one another. Our TX aerials are festooned with buttercups and daisies and we address each other in BBC received pronounciation.

And we all live in hardboard sheds…

Colin

[Peter FitnessParticipant @peterfitness34857]

Colin, I believe all you say, with the exception of the part about a "cloudless sky". Now, here in Australia, on the other hand…………………

Peter.

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Colin
I'll have some of what you're on, please. Do you take it with water?
If "civilisation" means annual flooding, half a million for a semi-detached, an hour to get six miles and folk who cross the road rather than talk to you then you're very welcome to it. I used to live in Orpington many moons ago and I know which I prefer.
I'm just off to polish the clogs and iron me flat cap ready for church.
Dave M

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