Prototype build of ELLIE

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Ashley

Using a mobile phone hadn't occurred to me.

After all I was inside a large steel and concrete structure and bathed in all manner of different digital radio signals so reception would have been perfect.

I guess we are just techno dunces up here int'north.

Paul (flat cap, whippet & Iphone)

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

What can I say ???? Ashley

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

The real problem Ashley…..Is that we haven`t swopped phone numbers!

Paul should have called at the club stand and just waited for ten minutes?

Some Red Leader he is!

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

The latest skin photos look great and the below chine curve is spot on, How easy was it to bend?

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Glued the first bottom skin in place with all manner of stuff. Notice how useful the clamp holes are?

The tip was a struggle and had to resort to the heavy stuff!

Taking shape now?

Paul…..Have we still got deck sheer?

Can the deck overhang the hull sides?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hi Bob

The deck does oversail and there is a sheer

 

Do you still have the deck and coaming details or do you need a fresh set.

The build is looking good.

Paul

 

Edited By Paul T on 26/08/2013 20:15:22

[John ShireParticipant @johnshire55937]

Bob

Is green evostick the right glue to use on this build as I thought the blue container held the waterproof glue?

John

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Shop floor to Drawing Office

Don't need a deck drawing, I'll simply draw round the hull?

Your cross section doesn't show any overhang?

The ply was easy to bend……The problem is…..Keeping it bent!……lol

The glue is normal PVA and I've always used it, with no problems

And don't forget…………..United are playing Chelsae tonight!

If we lose…….Ellie gets it!

Bob at Old Trafford

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Morning Bob

Sorry I misunderstood your question about an overhanging deck but as can be seen in the section the vertical edge of the hull is flush with the finished edge of the deck.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Paul

Feel sure the deck should have a little overhang? They did at Haydock….as a capping strip and would look nice

John……I suppose I should be using waterproof glue,

Paul…….Make a note on the plans!

Bob

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

So, the pair of you.. have you swapped mob phone numbers yet???

Bob, with a bit of deck overhang would this not be a bit end-grainy and a better look achieved by an ACTUAL capping strip?? Although I can see where you are coming from by using the deck and not having to stick something else on (very canny).

I only use cheap PVA, or epoxy normally, or latterly Gorilla glue for foam. Not had a delamination problem yet! (even on the sub) but each to their own. I varnish/seal inside so the PVA use is not an issue if water enters the boat/whatever. AND others dont of course. Are you sealing the inside on this one?

Ash!ey

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Ashley

A plywood overhang would be very grainy, especially with my type of cheapo ply, But it's a chance not to be missed, as it would be very strong. Adding a thin rubbing strip would be messy and would need the bending process again

I will be adding a few coats of varnish to seal the joints and the dodgey glue should be ok

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

This idea is worth a mention………..Leverages and all that stuff

A clamp was required to secure the tip of the skin

After trying all sorts of nonesense, this Eureka Moment emerged!

It may look crude, but it did the trick!

After applying the waterproof PVA glue to the joint…..

I clamped a lever at the bottom edge of the hull

Attached a cord to the other end of the lever and loosely secured it to a clamp on the bench

A local block of wood was placed exactly where needed and pressure was applied, by pushing the top of the lever

When satisfied with the setup, the cord was finally secured to the anchor point

Problem neatly solved

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Shop floor to Drawing Office

Hull carcass finished, five weeks of fun………Sort of!

The keel is a little proud, at the front, shall we plane it down to the hull?

What`s it like inside?…..I can hear you ask……..

The next step is to remove the Former extensions, level up the top edge for the deck seating, clean up the inside, add more glue round the joints and apply a few coats of varnish

Not forgetting of course to draw round the periphery for the deck top

Bob in the Paint shop

[Kimosubby ShipyardsParticipant @kimosubbyshipyards]

Hi Bob,

I've used a similar leverage device for that same area when planking – mine was an aluminium tube, and yes it ended up with a permanant slight curve.

That hull looks very strong too – good job.

And as you're here, our vegetables won best vegetables in show in Ramsey.

Be seeing you, Kim.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, Kim

Congrats on your gardening skills

We had a very nice garden this year, but is now slowly melting into Autumnal colours

I`m really looking forward, seeing the forum readers efforts with Ellie, do you fancy building one?

Bob in the PR Office

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

The hull looks superb and if there is a little tidying up to do at the bow a light plane or sanding would be an ideal solution but could you take some before and after photos to show the readers exactly what is involved.

Regarding varnishing / sealing the internal surface experienced modellers know that this is simply good practise but it might be worth a more in depth explanation with some photos for the benefit of those readers who might be wondering why sealing is necessary.

I am not sure that an overhanging deck is a good idea not simply because of the open grain end looking untidy but more as a easily replaceable part should it become damaged as if, like me you hit the bank a little to hard it is far easier to replace a separate rubbing strake than repair a split deck.

As you have surmised I had intended a separate rubbing strake of either thin hardwood or rubber strip. But I can appreciate your point about trying to avoid more bending and would simply say that this part of the construction is down to personal choice.

Have you decided upon a colour scheme yet?

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Shop floor to Red Leader

Time for a stand!

No!….Not a rebellion…….A nice designer stand for the model?……..With a few pretty techo holes?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Squadron Leader Bob

I agree a nice techo stand would look good, do you want a drawing for one or are you going fly solo?

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Red Leader…………Sgt Braddock reporting

Would prefer a dra-wing…..So I can shoot holes in it!……..The Noobs will want one, anyway?

Peter in the Paint Shop is whingeing!…….He says he can`t seal the bows!

Some Plonker has covered it with a Bread Hook!

That`s life, Captain

Bob

[Tony HadleyParticipant @tonyhadley]

This build is looking really nice. The problems along the way seem to have been ironed out quite easily without any major surgery – A credit to you both to date – just my thoughts.

Tony

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, Tony

Your comments are always welcome

We hope you also might build the model?

Bob

[LARRY WHETTONParticipant @larrywhetton68737]

Hi Bob,

i will keep it short , ……………..SPOT ON………………………

Ihave a new model see gallery……………….cheers Larry…….

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, Larry

Seen your latest build too………You are very industrious!……Perhaps….Too industrious?

See my comments

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Shop floor to Top floor

A stand for a model boat is like a picture frame for a painting?

It just looks right

Bob

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