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  • #35541
    Bob Abell 2
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      @bobabell2

      Hello Ashley

      The paddles can be reduced to 48 mm

      Any good?

      Bob

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      #35542
      ashley needham
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        @ashleyneedham69188

        Bob, Thanks for that… it may be that this would do, at a pinch, and as you say, saves a lot of work. I will not be building to strict scale anyway (as usual) so I will have a DRAW on a big bit of paper and see if this looks ok.

        I did wonder…why was was your GE not present at the olypics opening ceremony??

        Ashley

        #35543
        Bob Abell 2
        Participant
          @bobabell2

          Ashley

          The paddle wheels are 140 mm outside diameter and the drive shaft is 5 mm dia

          Bob

          #35549
          Paul T
          Participant
            @pault84577

            Be fair Ashley

            The olympic committee spent £30m on the opening ceremony could they really have afforded Bobs TV appearance fees on top of Kenneth Branaghs.

            #35551
            Bob Abell 2
            Participant
              @bobabell2

              These are the jokes, folks!

              I`m just wondering about the colour scheme for Glasgow……..How about dazzle cammo aka JDAW?………Or battleship grey, all over?

              I`ll be using her old motors………Sounds ok to me!

              Bob

              #35556
              Colin Bishop
              Moderator
                @colinbishop34627

                Didn't realise it was Kenneth Branagh, I thought it was Bob in disguise doing his Brunel impression.

                Colin

                #35557
                ashley needham
                Participant
                  @ashleyneedham69188

                  I am mistaken, i see that they just used one of your GE paddlewheels. Makes me realise just how big your boat is, bob.

                  Glasgow, did it serve in the war? did it get a lick of battleship grey?

                  there must be loads of Glasgows out there, be nice to give it a different treatment, or indeed model it on one of her (presumably) sisters???

                  Ashley

                  #35558
                  Bob Abell 2
                  Participant
                    @bobabell2

                    The model is not based on an existing paddler………It`s freelance

                    So anything goes!

                    I like the idea of all grey……….Because it`s easy to do!

                    Don`t like carefully painted models

                    Will also fit a Becker rudder and enter it in the club steering comp?

                    Bob

                    #35560
                    Bob Abell 2
                    Participant
                      @bobabell2

                      Work in progress picture

                      The drive framework fits nicely in the hull and paddlewheel shaft is in position

                      The top edge of the hull will be finalised when the deck is in place…..ie……Too wobbly at the moment!

                      hull and frame-1000.jpg

                      Bob

                      #35561
                      Paul T
                      Participant
                        @pault84577

                        Good Afternoon Captain Bob

                        Using a Becker rudder with independent paddle wheels in a steering competition!

                        Doesn't that give you a little unfair advantage?

                        You have done a nice job on that hull.

                        Paul

                        #35563
                        Bob Abell 2
                        Participant
                          @bobabell2

                          Hi Paul

                          Only joking about the comp…….Glasgow is too wide anyway!

                          But it will have a Becker rudder as I like the mechanism

                          That special Stabilit epoxy has arrived…………£20.00 per pack!………….So it must be good?

                          Money Bags

                          #35576
                          Bob Abell 2
                          Participant
                            @bobabell2

                            It was a shear delight when the top deck fitted the hull perfectly!

                            No need for the sanding block at all!

                            deck lid-1000.jpg

                            Pity the central cutout to clear the bearings was about 5mm out of plonk!

                            error.jpg

                            Not much of a problem, but it should have been corrected?

                            #35599
                            Paul T
                            Participant
                              @pault84577

                              Hello Bob

                              From a company of such repute to have a 5mm error on a well established kit is very worrying and would put me off buying from them.

                              Have you written and advised them of the problem.

                              Paul

                              #35600
                              Bob Abell 2
                              Participant
                                @bobabell2

                                Hi Paul

                                I think I will contact them, just to see their reaction…..and post it!……Don't worry Colin, I shall be very polite

                                Most of the paddle boxes and superstructure are plastic mouldings and it's very difficult, deciding where the flash ends etc

                                I would not recco this kit to a novice

                                Bob

                                #35604
                                Colin Bishop
                                Moderator
                                  @colinbishop34627

                                  Paul,

                                  Unfortunately this sort of error is quite common on even kits from the most respected manufacturers, mentioning no names of course! Usually if you report the error they will correct it so it is always worth doing so but if Graupner are still selling this venerable kit then I doubt if they will do anything now!

                                  Colin

                                  #35613
                                  Bob Abell 2
                                  Participant
                                    @bobabell2

                                    Perhaps Bish is right

                                    It's no great deal?……What's a dollop o'filla, anyway?

                                    Bob

                                    #35618
                                    Paul T
                                    Participant
                                      @pault84577

                                      Bob

                                      Given how much you paid for the kit I would think that it is a very big problem.

                                      If I were running Graupner I would want to know how such a basic error managed to get through the design and prototype stages of production not just for this kit but for the wider implications involving all of their kits.

                                      I don't know what Graupner consider to be an acceptable margin for design error but in my former professional world an error of 5mm in 1000mm would be unacceptable.

                                      Paul

                                       

                                       

                                      Edited By Paul T (fat controller) on 04/08/2012 07:02:47

                                      #35619
                                      Bob Abell 2
                                      Participant
                                        @bobabell2

                                        Paul

                                        The hull has a central space in the perimeter beading with a dimple marking the paddle axle position

                                        That's the cause of the error

                                        Blame the moulding and not the lovely precise top deck

                                        Bob

                                        #35625
                                        Bob Abell 2
                                        Participant
                                          @bobabell2

                                          The paddlewheels are simply pressed assembly throughout and rather fiddly

                                          The pivot pins are plastic and pressed in……They don`t feel all that permanent to me and was wondering if I should touch each one with a soldering iron to seal them in?

                                          Can`t risk glueing them, for obvious reasons

                                          padwheel.jpg

                                          #35626
                                          ashley needham
                                          Participant
                                            @ashleyneedham69188

                                            Bob, Not seen any other comments about soldering the wheels, so perhaps they work fine as they are? Ashley

                                            #35627
                                            Bob Abell 2
                                            Participant
                                              @bobabell2

                                              Thanks Ashley

                                              I can give them a whirl and see what happens……Spares are bound to be available?

                                              Good job I didn`t send my critical Email…..eh?

                                              Bob

                                              #35628
                                              Colin Bishop
                                              Moderator
                                                @colinbishop34627

                                                Bob

                                                There seem to be quite a few Glasgow models about and I have never heard of them shedding bits of paddle. The wheels themselves have been available for many years and can be purchased separately at around £50 the pair. People use them for scratch built models.

                                                I'd give them a go as they are before making 'improvements', tempting though that may be.

                                                Colin

                                                #35639
                                                LARRY WHETTON
                                                Participant
                                                  @larrywhetton68737

                                                  Good Morning Bob ,

                                                  Watching paddle wheel build with interest , waiting to see your drive chain using the

                                                  the kit wheels , and motor links , thinking using graupner wheels for my LULONGA ,

                                                  but cost and motors and drive abit pricey , so will have to save up a bit longer,..

                                                  i see the the build is up to your first class standeds you should have coulum in a magzine

                                                  to help us strugling beginers……….Larry…..

                                                  #35641
                                                  Bob Abell 2
                                                  Participant
                                                    @bobabell2

                                                    Hello Larry

                                                    The drive is very simple!

                                                    I`m using a 540 motor with 50:1 reduction gearbox and equal 20 T sprockets from HOBBY`S

                                                    The tricky part for you, would be making the sprocket drive bushes, as the standard sprocket bushes are too small. You would need a lathe for this item…..

                                                    sprock.jpg

                                                    pad-1.jpg

                                                    pad-2.jpg

                                                    Bob

                                                    #35642
                                                    LARRY WHETTON
                                                    Participant
                                                      @larrywhetton68737

                                                      hI Bob ,

                                                      Thank you for reply and info , that looks simple , the sprokets and the chain are they from the same store is that the hobbies who do the dolls house stuff ?

                                                      also will paddles run in reverse and have turn braking ? cheers Larrry….

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