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  • #37390
    Ducky
    Participant
      @ducky

      And still going strong Bob!.

      sunny March day.JPG

      Wonderful boat and one of Velda's favourites, turns on a sixpence as they say.

      Duckie

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      #37392
      LARRY WHETTON
      Participant
        @larrywhetton68737

        Thank you Bob , for info , is the servo on the centure shaft , will try and get a copy of mag….Larry..

        #37412
        Phil Winks 1
        Participant
          @philwinks1

          Larry if you give me to the weekend I can send you a drawing of the arrangement of a becker rudder if thats any help

          Phil

          #37413
          LARRY WHETTON
          Participant
            @larrywhetton68737

            Hello Phil,

            Nice to here from you , that would be nice of you to send me details of rudder,

            i will try it on my next tug, are you going to warwick..?…cheers LARRY…

            #37414
            Phil Winks 1
            Participant
              @philwinks1

              No worries larry not at Warwick though I'm afraid far to busy fortunatly lol

              Phil

              #37516
              Bob Abell 2
              Participant
                @bobabell2

                It`s down to the nitty gritty at long last…….Installing the paddlewheels and feathering mechanism….Great fun

                The stationary hub can be set at it`s optimum position with this design and was very satisfying fiddling with it. The float is set vertical at the bottom position, by moving the hub forwards or backwards

                wheel in place.jpg

                Watching the mechanism working as it rotates was nice too……

                going round copy.jpg

                Capt Bob on the job

                #37517
                Colin Bishop
                Moderator
                  @colinbishop34627

                  It must make things a lot easier when you can actually get inside the model to fix all the bits together Bob!

                  Colin

                  #37518
                  LARRY WHETTON
                  Participant
                    @larrywhetton68737

                    Good morning Bob,

                    hope you are well, i will be  watching this stage closely ,

                    have yet to finish my LULONGA , PS. just lacking the now how ,

                    so keep posting the works , the build is first class, by the way dont get to close to those paddles ,

                    saftey guards required laugh cheers Larry….

                     

                    Edited By LARRY WHETTON on 11/11/2012 11:43:50

                    #37519
                    Bob Abell 2
                    Participant
                      @bobabell2

                      Hello Colin and Larry

                      Thank you for your comments and observations……Always welcome and nice to read

                      I must say I really enjoyed assemblig the mechanisms and posting myself into the picture too………..Just for general lightheartedness and amusement

                      Capt Robert………That`s my Sunday name btw

                      #37521
                      Bob Abell 2
                      Participant
                        @bobabell2

                        Larry, the feathering mechanism works by magic!

                        Unless you have one in your hands, it`s quite difficult to understand…..Whoever designed it, deserves a medal!

                        bob and feather-1000_edited-1.jpg

                        The main paddlewheel rotates on an axle………Obviously…….cough!

                        The feather mechanism coloured orange, rotates on it`s own axle……..Not shown on photo for clarity and is located off the sponson. This axle is set 6mm forward of the main paddlewheel

                        Both paddlewheel and feather mech rotate together ……………and this is the magic bit……..One spoke is solid……..The horizontal one on the right………This one spoke is what creates the strange movement of the floats.

                        It`s intention is to ensure that the floats entering or leaving the water in a vertical attitude….`ish!

                        If you can understand that…..You`re a better man than I am!

                        You can ask me any question………..Bob

                        #37522
                        LARRY WHETTON
                        Participant
                          @larrywhetton68737

                          Bob,

                          Clear as mud , no not realy clever bit of gear will now purchase a set with my pocket money.

                          thank you for info . you clever devil …..cheeky Larry…..

                          #37525
                          Dave_P
                          Participant
                            @dave_p

                            I'm half expecting the late Fred Dibnah to pop up in Bob's photoswink

                            Nice pictures Bob very interesting mechanism.

                            #37561
                            Bob Abell 2
                            Participant
                              @bobabell2

                              "Got a bit of a problem `ere…..Surry!"……..Said Fred

                              "And what`s that?"……..Said Bob

                              "When`t props runnin`……..Watter`ll gerrin bort!"……….Said Fred…………"Crumbs!"…..I reply or something similar!

                              Seriously chaps, the paddle box fits on the inside of the hull, which means that paddle spillage will enter the hull,………….so Fred tells me!

                              Can see a drastic mod looming!

                              leak problem.jpg

                              Looking forward to this!……Bob

                              #37564
                              Paul T
                              Participant
                                @pault84577

                                What a daft design flaw how did it ever get through the prototype stage of development never mind to the point where it is approved for production.

                                But surely after selling so many of these kits somebody must have raised this problem before especially as the solution is so obvious and simple to undertake.

                                Paul

                                #37566
                                Bob Abell 2
                                Participant
                                  @bobabell2

                                  Morning…..Paul

                                  I couldn`t believe it myself…..Only realised it yesterday, when I was on my way to the bathroom for the initial paddle trial!

                                  The big cutout in the side is totally unnecessary too

                                  But as you say………There`s plenty of Glasgows floating about……..I`m feeling cautious!

                                  Bob

                                  #37567
                                  Paul T
                                  Participant
                                    @pault84577

                                    Morning Captain

                                    Perhaps the chap that designed it had very big fingers or believed in having plenty of space to work in either way the large cutouts are very detrimental to what should be a perfect kit.

                                    Paul

                                    #37574
                                    Bob Abell 2
                                    Participant
                                      @bobabell2

                                      Hi Shipmate

                                      I will sort it out when the deck is glued in………………….Not much of a problem anyway

                                      Going to beef up the flimsy plastic boxes at the same time

                                      Capt B

                                      #37586
                                      Bob Abell 2
                                      Participant
                                        @bobabell2

                                        Here we go again!

                                        Look at the first picture……..The axle bearing is flat on the sponson……….As it should be

                                        axle bearing.jpg

                                        Now look at the next picture………The paddlebox is resting ON TOP of the paddlewheel!

                                        paddlebox too small.jpg

                                        Can you believe it?…..The flat on the top is no help either!

                                        Any Glasgow builders out there with a similar problem?

                                        Bob

                                        #37588
                                        Tony Hadley
                                        Participant
                                          @tonyhadley

                                          .glasgow steam 7.jpg

                                          Bob,

                                          Here is mine, I think the top is flat. I will go to the shed later and check.

                                          #37589
                                          Bob Abell 2
                                          Participant
                                            @bobabell2

                                            Hello Tony

                                            Thanks for dropping in!

                                            First question……..Does water escape from the paddlebox and onto the deck?

                                            Will you post a photo of the paddlewheel assembly, with the box removed please?

                                            I just can`t fathom out why I have the fouling condition……Any ideas?

                                            Bob

                                            #37592
                                            Colin Bishop
                                            Moderator
                                              @colinbishop34627

                                              Bob,

                                              Here is a photo I took at Brighton a few years back.

                                              glasgow.jpg

                                              And there is also a You Tube video here: **LINK**

                                              In neither case does there appear to be any water on deck. Hope this helps.

                                              Colin

                                              #37593
                                              Bob Abell 2
                                              Participant
                                                @bobabell2

                                                Thank you Colin

                                                You can see on Tony`s photo…….The paddlebox wall is on the inside of the hull?

                                                A lot of splash takes place too!………Perhaps time will tell?

                                                Bob

                                                #37599
                                                Bob Abell 2
                                                Participant
                                                  @bobabell2

                                                  Sorry chaps……I was incorrect in saying the bearing was flat down on the sponson!

                                                  The bearing shown is not the main paddlewheel axle, but the feathering axle!

                                                  Which simply means that the sponsons are too low down

                                                  Now to test the holding power of that fancy glue I`ve used!

                                                  Bob

                                                  #37604
                                                  Phil Winks 1
                                                  Participant
                                                    @philwinks1

                                                    Silly question perhaps Bob but is the top of the paddle box level with the bridge when sat on the sponson ? I'm wondering if the bridge wings marry up or is there a bit needed on the bottom of the paddle box.

                                                    Another question have you got the right paddle wheels ? I'm assuming they came with the kit so I guess the answer to that is yes

                                                    Phil (trying to think of the most unlikely answers)

                                                    #37606
                                                    Bob Abell 2
                                                    Participant
                                                      @bobabell2

                                                      Hello Winkie

                                                      The problem is the sum of several small errors……

                                                      Glueing plastic brackets to the featureless hull is a risky area…..Not knowing the implications

                                                      The main error comes from the fact that the deck is not yet glued in and most of the error disappears when the sponsons are sprung by hand

                                                      I did suspect the paddle wheels being the wrong ones, as they came in a separate box, but it's very unlikely

                                                      It's not much of a problem really………It's just me making a song and dance about nowt!

                                                      Bye…..Bob

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