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[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Works for me Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Good morning Paul

The latest mod calls for extra width on F7…….but nothing on F6?

Any comments on that?

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Good morning Paul

The latest mod calls for extra width on F7…….but nothing on F6?

Any comments on that?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Good Morning Bob

There are no changes to anything forward of F7.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

I still think F6 is slightly too narrow, but we`ll find out shortly

I`ve got the top stringers on my photo…..Going all the way to the transom

I think you have not done that on your card model

My method is preferred?

Where does the stringer meet the transom?

Consult photo

I guess the ends of the stringers, butt against the transom, but they will have to curve upwards

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

The two new vertical panels replace the stringers between F7 and the transom that's why I didn't take the stringers all the way to the transom on the card model.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Paul

From the baseboard to the top of the stringer at F7 is 179mm

From the baseboard to the top of the stringer at the transom is 190mm

Is this correct?

I am keeping the stringer full length for accurate continuity and reducing the side plate height accordingly

Picture to follow

Edited By Bob Abell on 15/01/2014 18:00:49

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

To answer your questions.

From the baseboard to the top of the stringer at F7 is 179mm…..True measurement is 177mm

From the baseboard to the top of the stringer at the transom is 190mm…..This measurement is also 177mm

 

I am keeping the stringer full length for accurate continuity and reducing the side plate height accordingly…..Keeping the stringer might throw the accuracy out as it will have an effect on the shape and position of the stringer in other locations (running it through the CAD shows a +/- 2mm deformation between F5 and F4)

Looking at your photo the transom is in the wrong position as the correct location is governed by the 177mm dimension (which on your build is baseboard to the top of the stringer at the transom )

I hope this makes sense.

Paul

 

Edited By Paul T on 15/01/2014 19:35:27

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

It's not a problem, as the stern section is not glued yet

The transom was positioned on the bottom edge of the keel as you said earlier

Can't understand why the stringer varies plus or minus 2mm?

I'm surprised you don't like the full length stringer idea and prefer the latest side plates?

I could do with a side elevation of the framework to see what's what

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

It might help the readers understand what we are talking about if they can see the foam and card mock up of the new stern.

 

Paul

Edited By Paul T on 15/01/2014 20:27:35

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

The stern section has been modified to accommodate an exciting novel feature!

Perhaps, Paul, the novel feature could be used mid ships?……and f'ward too?

It should suit the clutter free superstructure, nicely?

That's raised a few eyebrows?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

The mid section wouldn't work as the cockpit / superstructure is a removable unit but you have started me thinking about the long foredeck.

Leave it with me.

Paul

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

I have looked at incorporating the idea into the foredeck but I'm sorry to say that it doesn't work…..its the wrong shape and cant be adapted to suit the long curves that make up the design of the hull.

In its present (working shape) it just looks plain daft, ruins the aesthetics of the design and restricts access to the hull so it has to be the original design of a flush fitting, recessed access panel.

Paul

Edited By Paul T on 16/01/2014 13:22:55

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Please can we have a clue as to what the heck you two are talking about? There seem to be several conversations missing here……………or am I just having a Vague Day?
DM

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Dave

A couple of days ago Captain Bob and I were discussing the access hatch for the rudder compartment and as it is on a curved slope Bob suggested that we might use a sliding hatch similar to those found on a roll top desk.

I played around with the notion and thought that it would add interest value to the stern so I included it in the design. Spool forward to this morning and the good captain thought the same system could be used for the access through the long foredeck.

This proposal wouldn't work simply because by its very nature a rolling hatch would need to be rectangular in shape and this 'rectangle' would be out of keeping with the long curving shape of the foredeck.

On the other hand you could be having a vague day (I have lots of them)

Paul

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Perfick, Dr.Dude. I shall now go away and be vague elsewhere…………….

DM

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

The local pub is a great place to be vague (or train to be vague)

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

I know……………..

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Dave, you are not alone in having difficulty following the tortuous paths of this thread..

Ashley

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Apologies for confusing the readership with our shop talk, jokes and banter

The Drawing Office and shopfloor staff have been up to their necks in muck and bullets all week, sorting out the transom end, in heirogliphix and gibberish…….but it`ll be alright on the night!

Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible……..Is that how we spell heirogliphix?

All in good fun……Bob

Here is the latest creation…….

[Andy CParticipant @andyc56856]

That's a hell of a shape to make up Bob. Good luck, we know you can succeed.

Andy

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, Andy

Building this section will be a labour of love and very therapeutic

Scratchbuilding this type of model has to be as drawn by the Maestro!…..The stern calls for special attention

Paul has put a lot of effort into the theory of the strange shapes and we are looking forward to unusual behaviour on the water

I like the idea of the craft ploughing through the waves, rather than riding over them

Thank you for posting

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Framework is nearly finished…….Got the stern section to fit yet

Need to establish an accurate method of assembly…….At the moment, it`s all floating about!

A comments from the Drawing Office?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

The new stern panels, if glued and clamped correctly will provide the stable base for assembly that you require as when fitted they will dictate the positioning of the Transom and all other parts.

You will need to remove the buttress (keel to F7) as this will clash with the roller door and the rudder mechanism otherwise the build looks exactly right and when skinned with 1.5 ply will produce some fantastic curves.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you Paul

Just discovered that the stern is too wide by about 1/4"

That`s why I kept saying F6 was too narrow!

Not a problem…..It`s only balsa wood

Bob

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