Brutus

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

WOW!………I'm very pleased you like the build so far, Paul, very satisfying

Have I got the info for the decking etc?

I've got the sketches of the stern area

I would like to fit a strip on the chine line to separate the undersurface and the hull sides and will make painting look tidy

Bob

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Bob, gosh you certainly were pleased!

Metalflake black with silver on the underside, perhaps dark grey metalflake for the cabin, obligatory smoked glass in the cabin, lit internally with blue LED`s, and of course a small bank of exhausts sticking out the back, all with a red LED in them. Gets my vote.

Ashley

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Sorry Bob but the model needs to have clean sleek lines, a spray rail would spoil the effect
You do have the information for all of the decks and most of the cabin

Edited By Paul T on 30/01/2014 19:04:14

[Tony HadleyParticipant @tonyhadley]

Paul,

You mention omitting a spray rail to keep the lines clean. On this (or similar style of hull) isn't the spray rail to serve the purpose of keeping the spray down whilst improving the stability/turning of the model? Whilst at speed these strips would also prevent the possibility of the model heeling over.

Tony

[Amy jane SeptemberParticipant @amyjaneseptember49770]

looking good Bob, (the boats not bad either!)

[Amy jane SeptemberParticipant @amyjaneseptember49770]

Big yellow daisies, perhaps?

[Amy jane SeptemberParticipant @amyjaneseptember49770]

Big yellow daisies, perhaps?

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Tony

"You mention omitting a spray rail to keep the lines clean. On this (or similar style of hull) isn't the spray rail to serve the purpose of keeping the spray down whilst improving the stability/turning of the model? Whilst at speed these strips would also prevent the possibility of the model heeling over"

Good points but the purpose of the bow design is to cut through the water whilst creating very little wash or spray so in this respect the spray rail shouldn't be required, in fact they would probably create the very spray that I am carefully trying to design out.

As for helping with stability they would only be useful in very tight high speed turns and in this respect the concave shape of the rear lower hull comes into play so the lack of rails is a very small trade off between style and performance.

Having said all of this I have to concede that the hull will be skittish at speed and will certainly separate the men from the boys.

Paul

[Tony HadleyParticipant @tonyhadley]

Paul & Bob

Despite my thoughts on this ommision, it is (again) interesting to watch the progress with the build. Watching the on the water performance, in the future, should be of further interest.

Well done both of you.

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Amy your suggestion of a meadow has met with the same STUDIED INDIFFERENCE that my metalflake suggestion has met. Its alright, i am used to being ignored.

A couple of fixed sharks fins at the rear would assist in turning performance?? and look very cool. Bob`s razor sharp chine will be more than enough to deflect the spray, I am sure.

Ashley

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Ashley

Metalflake is a wonderful suggestion but I'm not the one spraying it, however I don't approve of red lit exhausts or shark fins decorated with yellow daises.

I should also add that I don't have to study.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Just another picture of Brutus emerging from it`s Chrysalis and the new stand

The stand has proved an essential piece of equipment, as the sharp edges of the stern and bows are very fragile, due to their thinness

Might have to build in some reinforcement, like brass wire?

Former no7 looks rather clumsy, Paul……Shall we lighten it?

Bob

[Amy jane SeptemberParticipant @amyjaneseptember49770]

Don't worry,Ashley, I can always do metal flake, daisy covered shark fins on my boat! (with led exhausts of course…)

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Paul

Looking at pages 16,17,18, we've got the cabin fitting inside a combing, but the deck has no combing?

Where does the change take place?……etc

I've not really studied the topside yet, so this could be an irrelevant question

Steering Brutus at high speed, will be like steering a rocketship, due to having no keel?

Bob

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Bob. This is what rudders are for. No doubt Paul has designed some rudders but when the time comes I would make them BIG but with limited movement.

The shark fins; I mean downwards pointing fins, like they have on hydroplanes, they are on the corners to stop sideways slippage when turning at high speed. I should have said "turn fins" I suppose.

Amy. I want to see daisies on your boat.

I have said this before in my Todays Boating, but metalflake is old hat now there are no Ford Capri`s to paint, and one cannot get anything like it in cans without having it made up or getting the real thing to spray and then I think it needs laquering really, but looks dead cool.

Led`s in exhaust. I have made something which I was going to put LED`s in something similar, an exhaust of sorts but couldnt be bothered at the end of the day. I could retrofit I suppose.

That Paul, what a wit eh??

Ashley

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

How`s this for…………………FLOWER POWER?

Could be a good idea?

As it would remove the seriousness of the situation, when first seen on the pond!

Bob

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

I'm almost lost for words……………….. but not quite.
DM

[Amy jane SeptemberParticipant @amyjaneseptember49770]

Lovely, Bob. I'm sure Paul will be most impressed!

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob (the hippie)

Brutus looks very lean and almost fragile with its building frame removed

There is a lot going on around Frame 7 so it needs to be chunky to withstand the various forces that are acting upon it.

How and where do you propose to reinforce with brass wire?

The changeover from combing opening to recessed opening occurs at the front of the cockpit, in essence the foredeck opening is flush fitting where the cabin slots onto a combing. Its covered in the drawings but I am thinking of changing removal of the foredeck from a vertical pull out to a horizontal slide (a bit like a pencil case)

Don't worry about the lack of a keel as the boat should behave like a canoe at low speed and normal speedboat at high speed, don't forget that the fairey boats don't have a keel.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Paul

I was thinking of sinking 1mm wire into the leading edge of the prow knife edge

The rear knife edges will be protected by the protruding props

Have you done a plan view of the hull showing the formers and the stringers etc

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

Sinking the wire into the leading edge is a good idea and will certainly add some strength to the bow. If you don't mind I will include it as a recommended procedure within the build instructions.

The plan view is on drawing 12

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thanks for that, Paul

Just noticed that the inner stringers are not running right at former 6, I think the former is not quite right

Please check and report back, as I would like to glue the stringers in tonight

Pleased that you like the wire idea

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thanks for that, Paul

Just noticed that the inner stringers are not running right at former 6, I think the former is not quite right

Please check and report back, as I would like to glue the stringers in tonight

Pleased that you like the wire idea

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Sorry Bob but I cant see a problem on the drawings but this doesn't mean that there isn't anything wrong. Can you temp fix the stringers to see if there is something amiss.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

The problem is with the notch on F6…….It`s about 6mm out

Bob

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