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6 September 2008 at 09:43 #15645
Nicholas Lloyd
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Hi Paul sorry the boat will hopefully improve my building skills for a future project sorry i should of made that clear.

Back to the boat: i’ve made some mesurements The engine room has to be at least 2 inches long and 31/2 wide. the beds are 1 inch ide and 2 inches long.

The beds are bunks of 3 and there are 3 sets two next to each other and the third bunk is going across them at the front of the boat so it needs to be at least 21/2 inches wide to fit the bunks in.

and the stowage compartment can be as long as it likes as i’m not sure how big it’s going to be so it’s up to you i was thinking 13 inches as the total lengh of the boat.

Nick.
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6 September 2008 at 13:54 #15650
Paul T
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@pault84577
Hi Nick

I shall start looking for such a craft but it might take a couple of days as your requirements for the accommodation are quite specific.

Its nice to see a young chap using imperial measurements.

Paul
6 September 2008 at 13:58 #15651
Nicholas Lloyd
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Thanks Paul i just used what it said on the ruler i don’t get measuerments i just use what ever is easyer for me. Thanks for taking the time to look Paul i think i might have to scracth build it but wouldn’t know where to start.

Nick.
6 September 2008 at 14:05 #15653
Paul T
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@pault84577
Hi Nick

Scratch building a waterline model boat is not to difficult especially if you are used to building models as you will be used to following a set of plans and won’t be so inclined to stick your fingers together.

In fact I bet even Vinnie could do it.

The first job is to find a suitable model or plan and then we can take it from there.

Paul
6 September 2008 at 14:27 #15655
Nicholas Lloyd
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Thanks Paul i’ll have a look on the net in a mo.

Nick.
6 September 2008 at 14:32 #15656
Paul T
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@pault84577
Nick

Look at this link

http://www.kingstonmouldings.com/pdgermanarmedtrawl.htm

Paul
6 September 2008 at 14:34 #15657
Nicholas Lloyd
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Hi Paul this boat is perfect and it gives me plenty of space to add a 43mm anti air gun and some mines. It would also be perfect as it’s got a big front end (beds) stowage compartment and by the looks of it a big engine room!

Where do i start?

Nick.
6 September 2008 at 14:37 #15658
Nicholas Lloyd
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Hi paul thanks for the link mate but i wanted maybe somthing bigger! thanks fortaking the time to look mate and it has givern me ideas for some machine guns so it is realy help full thanks mate.

Nick.
6 September 2008 at 14:38 #15659
Paul T
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@pault84577
Hi Nick

Where did you find it?

You need to know what ship it is and then look for plans (blueprints) if none available then some photos of the ship i.e. full side view, full rear and top views (if poss) so that measurements can be taken.

It is very similar to a Billings Kit called the Nordkap

Paul
6 September 2008 at 14:48 #15660
Paul T
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@pault84577
Hi Nick

The Nordkap (not a good photo)
6 September 2008 at 14:49 #15661
Nicholas Lloyd
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@nicholaslloyd34425
Ok Paul i found it on the net i’ll find it again and get the name.

Nick.
6 September 2008 at 14:52 #15662
Nicholas Lloyd
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Hi Paul it’s a: Granton Motor Trawler, ‘Granton Merlin’ GN72 if thats any help i did a search and only found the one image.

Nick.
6 September 2008 at 15:00 #15663
Paul T
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Hi Nick

Try this link

http://www.modellbau-web.de/galerie/nordkap/nordkap.html

Close ups of a Nordkap (ignore the modern gear)

Paul
6 September 2008 at 15:02 #15665
Nicholas Lloyd
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@nicholaslloyd34425
Thanks Paul Thats perfect thank you what do you reackon do you think it would fit in if we changed the rear end and the funnel?

Nick.
6 September 2008 at 15:08 #15666
Paul T
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@pault84577
Hi Nick

Yes it would seem to be a perfect selection

Here is a drawing for you to get started on.

Got to go now but will log on later so get all of your questions ready.

Paul
6 September 2008 at 15:11 #15667
Nicholas Lloyd
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Thanks mate i’ll be going soo anyway as i’m off swiming at 5 i’m going to start on the beds see you in a bit mate.

Nick.
6 September 2008 at 21:06 #15673
Martyn Crowther
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@martyncrowther42814
hi nick im watchin your post’s with Paul and i am looking forward to see you build it!
6 September 2008 at 21:08 #15674
Nicholas Lloyd
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@nicholaslloyd34425
Thanks Martyn i’ve now hopfully got two engines for this i now i’ve got one just waiting on a PM.

Nick.
9 September 2008 at 16:50 #15761
Nicholas Lloyd
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Hi all sorry for not posting earlier but i’m back at school and i don’t have a lot of time. i’m going to be adding two AA guns and a german 88 gun on the front of the deck. What would be the best type of wood to build my waterline boat from?

Nick.
9 September 2008 at 18:51 #15768
Paul T
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@pault84577
Hi Nick

At the length of model that you propose to build I would suggest card, plastic card or balsa, all are easy to work with and readily available (and fairly undemanding on the pocket)

Any more thoughts on the patrol boat plans?

Paul
11 September 2008 at 13:05 #15799
Nicholas Lloyd
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@nicholaslloyd34425
Hi Paul sorry for not posting earlier mate i’ll get some balsa when i’m next in sherswbruy the Patrol boat looks ace mate and i’ll be using some things from the pics like mg nests and torpedo tubes? any ideas where i can get some sea mines and torpedo’s for the boat?

Nick.
11 September 2008 at 18:43 #15803
Paul T
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@pault84577
Hello Nick

The joy of scratch building is not having pre-made parts but creating the items that you need.

In the case of torpedoes try using wooden dowel, rounding off one end and reducing the other to make the correct shape and then adding some balsa fins with a small prop….."hey presto" an instant torpedo

So I will leave it to you to think of something that is just the right shape to make sea mines out of (but a hint would be that some deodorant and shampoo containers have great tops)

Paul
12 September 2008 at 10:23 #15815
Nicholas Lloyd
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@nicholaslloyd34425
Hi Paul thanks for tips mate i never thought of dowel thanks mate!

Nick.
28 September 2008 at 20:45 #16144
Nicholas Lloyd
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@nicholaslloyd34425
Hi paul sorry for not responding ealier mate but this project is in full swing i’ll get soem pics up late i hope you like it.

Nick.
28 September 2008 at 20:55 #16145
Nicholas Lloyd
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@nicholaslloyd34425
Hi Paul here are some pics on the first pic the red circles indicate where AA/surface guns will go and the rectangle indicates where a torpedo tube will be located the yellow tape is hold everything togather so please ingnore it. Inside the cabin the steering wheel was taken from an old bike (model) and saned and giive a few layers of tipex to make it neater i just need to touch it up again.I hope you like it.

Nick.
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