Ellie windows

[Ian Fleming 1Participant @ianfleming1]

Ian

[Ian Fleming 1Participant @ianfleming1]

How do you achieve a neat finish when forming Windows in 3mm ply which will have clear plastic adhered to the inner surface of the ply so the 3mm of ply is exposed Looking forward to your helpful responses.This is my first model “Ellie” thanks you

[David Marks 2Participant @davidmarks2]

There is a thread on here called "Prototype build of Ellie" which I assume is the same model boat.

[Ian Fleming 1Participant @ianfleming1]

Yes there is indeed and although I’ve read a number of times I don’t see any relevant answer to my Ellie problem . I have made the cabin in a thicker plywood than Bob used

[Dodgy Geezer 1Participant @dodgygeezer1]

To make a proper window you need to create a window frame and mount the glass in a similar way to full-scale practice.

More simply, you can get quite a good effect by using a thickish grade of clear plastic – perhaps 0.5mm – and cut it to size to fit individual window openings. It is easy to file down to get a good fit, and then you can decide just how much of an indent you want. Once in place the plastic can be secured by a thin bead of canopy glue around the edge from inside…

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Ian

If I remember right, I simply glued strips of plastic on the inside wall

Then clear varnished the windows and inside edges

We would be very interested on seeing a few photos of your build please?

Bob

[Ian Fleming 1Participant @ianfleming1]

Thank you most helpful

[Ian Fleming 1Participant @ianfleming1]

I only wish I had your skill Bob. I have planked the hull and top decks as I could not buy readily 1mm ply. Thankfully I don’t self abuse as my sanding arm wouldn’t cope with the amount of sanding required

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Ian……Post a photo please, we are always interested in Pauls designs

Thank you for your kind comment, building skills are the result of many years of practice

Bob

[Ian Fleming 1Participant @ianfleming1]

Will do Bob when we get back from holidays

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hello Ian

Are you still enjoying the french hospitality?

The choice of fitting and style of windows is usually left up to the individual builder as there is such a wide range of preferences.

The easy way is to tidy up the edges of the window cutouts and stick a piece of clear plastic or acetate on the inside, alternatively you might want to improve the design by including window frames [in either timber or metal] or even go to the extent of having opening windows.

I opt for the easy method and apply a thin coating of fine wood-filler to the open (cut edges) of the ply before tidying up with fine grit paper, this seals the ply and produces a nice flat surface with crisp square edges prior to painting.

I hope this helps but if I can be of more assistance please don't hesitate to ask.

All the best

Paul

[Ian Fleming 1Participant @ianfleming1]

No Paul now touring North East of Scotland.I think your suggestion of filling the edges of 3mm ply is exactly what I’ll do,followed by using 0.5mm clear plastic set back 1mm will be the best solution.

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hi Ian

Filling the edge of the ply is fiddly but can produce a very nice finish, it will also provide a good clean edge for scribing in the windows.

You are certainly getting about in your touring holiday and I am slightly jealous but I wouldn't want your fuel bill.

Have fun with the midges

Paul

[mike farrellParticipant @mikefarrell21522]

Hi Ian

When fitting windows I use good quality ply sandwiched between 2 scrap pieces of ply . all 3 pieces are tacked together ,then when cut the middle cut out will have clean edges . Some will think its a waste of material but for me to save time and effort trying to clean up edges it is the best result . Try it out and establish for your self how well you can make very good windows . Please remember to use a fine tooth blade .

My Elle is up in the spare bedroom as ill health will not allow me time to steer clear of the toilet for long enough time to do anything worth while

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Mike

That's a good way of creating crisp window edges, but it'll be a bit tricky, actually knowing where they are on the model?………unless of course, the outer piece is similar to the cabin wall in size

Deepest sympathy with your health problem……My brother has similar discomfort

There is a way round it of course?

Regards

Bob

[Ian Fleming 1Participant @ianfleming1]

Thank you Mike seems like a really good idea which I wish I had known about before. I wish you much better health. Kind regards Ian

[Ian Fleming 1Participant @ianfleming1]

Wish I had not been a stereotypical frugal Scot and had dipped into my wallet (releasing the squadron of moths!) and bought 1.5 mm ply. for both the hull and cabin sides. I've ended up planking on frame absolutely everything which is incredibly time consuming. My left wrist is useless for anything now with much sanding still to be done.( but at least my eyesight has not suffered. ) Hope Ellie is not too top heavy and that the twin 600 motors push her along nicely. Much wishful thinking now as I'm months away, I think, from the initial launch.

Ian

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Ian

There are a few video`s of Ellie sailing, with different motors

Look on YouTube

Try typing Slomo2 or Brutus and they should pop up

The Link feature on this Win10 PC is not working

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

These links work. Ellie Ellie2 Slo-mo Slo-mo2 Brutus Brutus2

Paul

[Ian Fleming 1Participant @ianfleming1]

Thank you guys for these links -off now for some more sanding penance

Ian

[Ian Fleming 1Participant @ianfleming1]

Watched these videos now -Can I ask were these boats built with single or twin props? I am building my Ellie with two props with two 600 motors and just wondered if I could expect noticeably different performance or would it be very similar?

Thanks again Ian

Ian

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

I think they are all twin prop

Bob

[Ian Fleming 1Participant @ianfleming1]

Thank you Bob

Ian

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