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    CookieOld
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      @cookieold

      Hi All , I am aboat to set the prop shafts into my 1/24 Perkasa , Does antone have the info on the best angle they should be set at.

      Thanks Dave

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        Prop Angle

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        Paul T
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          @pault84577

          Hello Dave

          Looking at the existing drawings of the Perkasa the designed angle is 14deg but this seems very steep to me

          hms_p_150_perkasa_torpedo_boat-25431.jpg

          **LINK**

          This link might help with the rest of the construction.

          Paul

          Edited By Paul T on 02/06/2014 18:57:38

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          CookieOld
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            @cookieold

            Thanks Paul, The shallowest angle i can acheive to give enough room for the 850 motors and aline with the ctr of the rudder is 12 degrees i guess will be OK do you agree.

            Best Regards Dave

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            Paul T
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              @pault84577

              Hi Dave

              As my mentor DM has stated on your other thread getting the propshaft angle as shallow as possible is a little foible of mine and I do get aggravated if my designs exceed a pitch of 4deg.

              However 12 degrees is better than 14 and as there are limitations imposed by the 850 motors you wouldn't seem to have much choice.

              The subject of propshaft angles has been discussed before and as excessive angles are one of my pet hates I offered the following solution for those building my Brutus where I had designed a model with a propshaft angle of 2deg.

              brutus mfa.jpg

              Mounting the motor slightly higher and using a belt to connect the motor to the propshaft allows for a shallow angle installation, and the consequent increase in propeller efficiency, whilst not compromising on the choice of wider diameter motors.

              Another way to achieve the same result is to install the motors in an inverted position by hanging them from an overhead frame work.

              red leader 10.jpg

               

              Here is an example of an inverted motor installation in a triple engine setup in an MTB (centre engine not installed yet)

              ellie motors.jpg

              A closer image of all three motors in position, hanging the motors in this manner allows the motors to be fitted lower in the model with the motor can almost touching the inside of the hull. 

              ellie rudders.jpg

              A final image showing the shallow angle shafts, props and rudders

              Paul

               

              Edited By Paul T on 03/06/2014 13:34:16

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                Thanks Paul, The comments from yourself and Dave M, 2 very experienced modelers are much appreciated i really like the ( under slug ) idea . I have made a CNC machined ali motor mount that takes all 3 motors i have redrawn it on CAD and if i mount it up side down using 45mm props and the motors just clear of the hull i can get the angle down to 8 degrees and i have to say Paul it look more realistic thats the way i am going to go.I will post some photos of the set up when i figure out how to attache photos ( i am new to this forum buisness )

                Thanks Again Daveyes

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