Vic Smeed’s Silver Mist

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Steady on Ray

You are getting tooo technical for Bob  keep it simple and liberally scattered with cups of tea.

Edited By Paul T on 20/05/2016 13:25:30

[Ray Wood 3Participant @raywood3]

Hi Bob

I think all glass fibre resin is polyester based, I've used West Epoxy resin inside my boats when I have it in stock, its expensive and in the past I've had problems with it not going off fully. I had that problem with outside of my balsa planked Silver Mist, I ended up putting the hull in the airing cupboard for a couple of days which pleased she who must be obeyed a great deal Had I read the instructions it probably said it had to be 15 Deg or above.

Regards Ray

[Ian GardnerParticipant @iangardner62867]

That's looking great Bob- did you need help turning her over!

I'm really looking forward to seeing her progress. You may remember I changed the cabin window shapes on mine as I found some real life examples done the same way -and it saves finding a way of making those shaped window frames.

**LINK**

All the best,

Ian

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, Paul, Ray and Ian

As well as making the stand, I`m in the throes of sorting out the actual construction of the cabins

At the moment the drawing is rather too condensed!

I think Vic was trying to save paper?

The curly cabin sides, look nice, but don`t seem to have any support for the curly end bits?

Perhaps I`m having another Senior Moment?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Perhaps I`m having another Senior Moment?

No Bob its still the same one that started when you were building Brutus, mine started in 2005!

[Ray Wood 3Participant @raywood3]

This will be your next stage, best of luck

Regards Ray

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

You know what they say, Paul

Ignorance is bliss!

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Something for the weekend Sir?

Removed the building spine and made a start on the stand

With SloMo in the background as a size comparison…………..Silver Mist is looking a bit OTT?

But once large boats get on the water……..They do shrink somewhat!

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hey up!………What`s he doing now?………I hear you ask

Well chaps, I`ve decided to have one motor drive as Vic decreed……Especially, when I`ve found in the junk box, a vintage MFA type 850 motor, one prop shaft and the rudder off Great Eastern…….And it`s a Becker type too

The snag is…….We need a hole up the keel………At this late stage too!

A tricky job, but also an engineering challenge!

First job, is to saw through the keel, up to the hull…….Easy

Next job………..Drill about 8" through the centre of the 8mm keel…….With an 8mm drill!……..Tricky

Problem……..Ain`t got an 8mm drill

Answer……….Make one!………OK Boss

Problem……How do we stop the drill wandering?

Answer………Fit metal guides……OK Boss

And it worked a treat………….More pix to follow

First picture, showing sawn slot through keel

2nd picture………8mm home made tube drill……..Drilled down the centre with 6mm drill, and with teeth filed at the cutting end

Also shows, steel plates, top and bottom………To stop the drill wandering!…………Clever….eh?

Pictures to follow showing inside the hull

Your comments are welcome

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Heath Robinson would be proud

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, Paul

Mr H Robinson believed in the saying……..

"Many a true word was spoken in jest"

How else could could you have produced an 8mm hole, down an 8 mm thick keel x 8" deep……….Dead on?????

Anybody?

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Kevin would like to see the inside, please?

He doesn`t really………I just made that up

Bob………Nice?

What`s that?……….What`s that screw doing there?

We needed another five thou for clearance, so I used an 8mm screw………Running in reverse of course

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

In answer to your question of How else could could you have produced an 8mm hole, down an 8 mm thick keel x 8" deep……….Dead on?????

The answer is very easily, just stick to the design and do it before planking.

By the way have you got shares in Isopon?

Paul

Edited By Paul T on 23/05/2016 17:57:53

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

The need to drill a keel out, must arise very often, old chap?

This is just my method of doing it

BTW…….I don`t possess a Crystal Ball

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hello Chief Engineer

For those without crystal balls and who lack your natural ingenuity they could use one of these

 

 

Its a mortise tool and they come with square and round chisels.

 

Paul

 

Edited By Paul T on 24/05/2016 11:29:43

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hi Paul

For your suggestion to work………You are going to need a Crystal Ball………And a Magic Wand!

Stand by for my next trick………..Drilling a vertical hole on a cockeyed surface.for the rudder tube

Bob

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

While standing up in a hammock, Bob?

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Just you wait and see!

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

Far from needing a crystal ball or a magic wand the mortise drill works very well and is my 'go to tool' when builders ask for help when they, like you have either changed their minds about the design or simply forgotten to allow for the tube.

Clamping the hull firmly to the work bench and having the drill press set to the correct angle ensures a problem free procedure, in fact it takes 20 minutes to set up the job and 20 seconds to actually drill the hole but I get a perfectly straight and accurately sized hole without the need to invent new tools or stand on my head with a piece of studbar in one hand and a bent screwdriver in the other.

Surprisingly enough people are prepared to pay £30 for this service

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Having trouble sorting out the pictures, at the moment, chaps

Windows 10 is not being very cooperative today

In order to drill the hull to take the rudder tube, at the correct angle, I made a drilling jig plank

It rested on the keel at the stern, but needed to be packed up at the front, to allow for the keel slope

Had to make another special drill, using the rudder bush in the plank as a drill guide, to drill down through the hull and through the rudder deck

Can`t guarantee the accuracy of the hole sideways, but it can be adjusted quite easily, the essential requirement was to get the rudder shaft square to the water line……..Fingers crossed

We`ll soon find out!

Bob

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

the essential requirement was to get the rudder shaft square to the water line

Kevin wants to know why this is considered "essential", particularly as he has been following Banjoman's build of Moonbeam.

DM

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Dave

It only is essential, because that's how it is on the drawing

What are you suggesting otherwise?

Bob

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Bob

I'm suggesting that, while aesthetically it might be desirable to get the rudder shaft square to the waterline, from a practical point of view it's not as absolutely necessary as the word 'essential' implies. Kevin may have noticed that the axis of the rudder hinge on Moonbeam is anything but square to the waterline and wondered about the apparent contradiction – although that's possibly an extreme example. I hope that's cleared it up for him.

Carry on, skipper.

DM

[BanjomanParticipant @banjoman]

Bob,

Heath-Robinson or not, for my part I found your set-ups to solve your drilling problems most ingenious, and they clearly got the jobs done nicely — a fine example of necessesity-and-invention interplay, I'd say!

/Mattias

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

A voice in the wilderness!

Thank you very much, Banjo……….You are very kind

In many cases, I could have guessed the various little jobs……Or as we sometimes say……."Knife and forked it", but finding a precise little trick or method is great fun to me

I used to run a thread for similar, tricks of the trade………"Eureke Moments"

I think, some of your ideas may qualify?

The Nit Pickers like to have their say, but they mean no harm

Bob

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