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Paul T22/12/2007 10:07:00
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Dear All

Here is my Christmas controversy why have some clubs and local authorities banned internal combustion engines from model boat lakes?

I consider this as being a major infringement of my civil liberties.

What will be banned next: Steam because the boilers might explode or high speed electric because they are just to fast.

If this nanny state madness continues we will be left with un powered models on the end of a piece of string and having to produce risk assessments and method statements prior to launching.

I would value your honest comments

Paul

Manxman22/12/2007 12:56:00
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Hi Paul,

I start your debate.

Regards to I/C engines: Noise pollution is not acceptable by most local councils now days, having received many complaints from local residents near to lakes.  These few people who have complained are the same people, who on a Sunday morning get out their I/C powered mowers and leaf blowers and make one hell of a racket, but the councils do not ban these  (probably because most councillors have one!).  Secondly, yes they are fast, and not suitable for use on a lot of lakes (New Brighton & Hoylake being just two).

Steam engines in boats - beautiful to watch - can not see these being banned, though they do carry a boiler safety certificate, which has to be tested at regular periods.

As for your civil rights,  I don't think you or I have any, unless you belong to a minority group then the councils will go out of their way to make sure you keep them.

Sorry Paul - boat on a string - has already been banned on the grounds of health and safety - someone might trip over the string !

Cheers - Ken

Paul T22/12/2007 16:05:00
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Hi Ken

Thanks my friend for the reply.

As you can gather I have very strong opinions about this as I feel that I am being treated as some kind of inferior moron who can,t control himself let alone a model boat. What right have these dogooders got to limit my personal freedom.

Am I a terrorist? NO

Am I an escaped prisoner? NO

Have I broken any laws or rules? NO

Then why can't I sail my I.C. powered boats at 8.00am on an empty lake when I can't affect anybody else??

But as usuall most people who read these words just bury their heads in the sand and hope that the problem will go away.

Ye Gods don't we have any fight left or are we just a nation of nodding yes men or do I have to belong to a minority ethnic group?

Paul

Manxman22/12/2007 16:44:00
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Hi Paul,

These dogooders and health & safety "door handle heads"  will, I have no doubt, kill this country off.  I read of a guys company car had failed a health & safety check - Why ? - because it didn't have a No Smoking sticker displayed! - this is a clipboard carrying office nut, since when has he been a qualified motor mechanic.  Seems to me that if the car had been leaking break fluid it would still be safe to drive so long as the sticker was displayed.

Also read, some 5-6 weeks ago, a fire brigade had received some new recliner chairs, sadly they were not allowed to use them until they had all been on a 2 day course on the correct way to use them !

So whats next ? - An army patrol just about to attack, and up pops jobsworth health & safety, "sorry, you can't use those bullets, you may hurt someone" !

We should get the army to line these nuts up against a wall and shoot the lot of them (not forgetting to use soft, rubber bullets of course !) Health & Safety - rule 23, paragraph 5. section 3.

please note, whilst writing this, I am sat in my computer chair, seat belt fastened and using a soft flexible keyboard....  Damn! - just broke another nail.   Hello, is that claims direct...

Cheers - Ken

Paul T22/12/2007 19:34:00
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Hi Ken my dear friend.

I appreciate your comments and I fully agree with your sentiments however it would seem that nobody else on this site has an opinion.

This is such a shame as I had thought that these forthright writings would have fired a great deal of comments. good or bad, from our members but it appears that apathy rules the day.

It would appear that no matter what rules and regulations are imposed upon us by the faceless gray men we will make no comment nor defend our rights to sail our models as we see fit.

It is such a great shame

Vinnie Branigan22/12/2007 19:43:00
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I think it's more likely that Christmas rules the day. 

Vinnie 

Paul T22/12/2007 19:55:00
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Thanks Vinnie

I appreciate your and Kens comments but I feel that nobody else cares what happens to our pastime. I wish that I could blame it on christmas cheer (or lack of)

You won't believe how important I feel this is but nobody seems to care. So why should I bother, I have somewhere to sail my boats so perhaps its a case of pull the ladder up Jack as I am alright.

Paul

Vinnie Branigan22/12/2007 19:58:00
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Oh I'm sure they do Paul, it's just that at this time of year, not everybody can sapre the time to look in and post a comment.

 Merry Christmas!

Vinnie 

Paul T22/12/2007 20:01:00
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Maybe your right Vinnie

Perhaps I should wait a few days and see if any other comments are forthcoming. But I am still disillusioned and don't expect much more.

Merry Christmas to you and Carol

Manxman22/12/2007 20:23:00
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Hi Paul, Vinnie,

No - don't wait a couple of days - wait about 10 !, until about 02:00 - 03:00 everyone will then know how to solve every problem - won't make any sense though - butt wheel slove 'em - Hic ....

Just a thought, how can everyone be busy with Christmas - that's what we have wives for, wives do Christmas, we just tell them what they've forgotten !

Now if that doesn't stir up a hornets nest, i don't know what will !

Cheers - Ken

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