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gecon07/05/2020 15:08:39
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I suppose this is where I should have started the first thread about the Fisher 34 last year. Scratch building from plans of the Fisher 46 drawn by D Metcalf. The photos on Album show the build so far. There's still no cabintop or wheelhouse on deck. I'm currently staining, oiling and varnishing the decks and bulwark capping strip. After that, the hull will be upside-down for a while for glass laminating and painting the hull and keel.

When that's done, I'll start on the cabintop and wheelhouse construction. Last year I said the yacht would be ready by Easter! I'm now adding a year to that.

I have managed to install 3 winch servos and a rudder servo. 2 of the winch servos for genoa control.

I'm also putting together a kit yacht, The Comtesse by Krick Ro-Marine. That should be ready to test sometime this summer. I'll be writing a few Words about that in a 'kit build' topic. Some photos of that are in Album under 'Comtesse'.

George

 

Edited By George Edward Connery on 07/05/2020 15:10:51

Ray Wood 207/05/2020 18:03:23
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Hi George,

Good to see your new thread for the Fisher, I think you may have issues with the Genoa sheeting to a winch, as it's a long sail which needs to go a long way round the mast to change tack ??

I will be following with interest, photos please 😃✔

Regards Ray

gecon07/05/2020 18:59:05
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Hi Ray,

You won't believe the number of hours I have spent pondering this issue! I think I now know what to do, we'll see.

In my Fisher 34 album there is a photo on the second last row showing the innards of the aft hull section. Here you can see the mainsheet pulley in the centre just forward of the mizzen mast support hole. A little further aft (to the left in the photo!) you can see, both port and starbord, two more pulleys. These are for the 2 individual genoa winches. Each winch can pull in/let out about 45cm of sheet length. The winches are moved independentlyof each other. Obviously the leeside winch has to be slackened off as the windward side (to weather) is pulled inn. In theory the clew of the genoa should be able to move through 40-45 cm. This should allow a reasonble amount  of genoa adjustment. 

A little elastic cord here and there should help to absorb any inadvertant assimetric hauling  of sheets. Both winches can be let out to enable the genoa to open up a bit for running with the wind or at least with wind abaft the beam. The Fisher is not known for it's sailing performance and this model will be tru to scale  I'm sure.

Hmmm…. bet there'll be some of comments on this.  Probably, everybody else who has a yacht already knows all this and have forgotten to tell me!   Hope nobody reads this!   

I have just opened a new thead for the Comtesse too. I suggested earlier that they would be under 'build blog' but they ended up as 'scratch builds' and 'kit builds'. 

George

Edited By George Edward Connery on 07/05/2020 19:37:05

Ray Wood 207/05/2020 19:42:32
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Hi George,

I have also tried to work out a solution, but if your going for 2 winches that may work with 1 each side, fouling the mast I would think is the issue, or sheeting out one side before pulling in the other !! Or you could end up with winches fighting each other 😈,

I favour a self tacking jib on a horse, which is what I'm going to do on my cat...

Regards Ray

gecon07/05/2020 19:57:28
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Hi Ray,

The Fisher is miles too heavy displacement to be content with a self-tacker. Also I want it to look more to scale. I'm thinking more about being able to move it in the breeze occasionally, in a scale and sedate manner - rather than avid sailing!smiley If you look at the photos of the real thing (in my album) you will see that it probably sails as well as a......TSB !

George

Edited By George Edward Connery on 07/05/2020 19:59:47

gecon08/05/2020 14:43:24
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The deck and bulwark capping has been given a third -and last- coat of varnish today. A few dust particles here and there but not noticeable unless viewed in strong refelecting light. Finish has been aproved by the Admiralty but only because she is tired of seeing the F34 on top of the hob. Luckily it's induction so she can't switch on and fry the keel.

6 hours on the hob and then 4 days hardening time (Fisher -not admiralty) before she does a half-roll (again , Fisher not Admiralty) ready for glassing the nether regions (still Fisher).

Has to be on the hob with vent on 'half-ahead' for air polution reduction. Still too cold outside for open air paintwork.

George

gecon10/06/2020 08:40:14
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Starting up the Fisher build again this week. Comtesse is now 'afloat' and I have at least a yacht to sail during any fine summer picnic days which may inadvertantly occur!

Epoxy and glassfiber cloth are top of the list of 'jobs-to-do' for the Fisher. Never done this before, so I'll be refering to Dave's info' from an article he wrote in MB and another article by Larry Simmons, ehow.com.

George

gecon13/06/2020 21:21:54
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Started epoxy/glass cloth work this afternoon. See that I'm going to have to get a lot better at this PDQ! However, got plenty of sandpaper in store and it's good excercise anyway! Tomorrow's session will include testing some thickening agent mixed in to the epoxy. I expect that once the first epoxy layer and glass cloth is done the process will be less hectic, so actually looking forward to that bit.....I think.

Probably need about three aplications of epoxy and sanding to get a good fininsh. The third coat of epoxy will contain a white colouring agent....(pigment?) After that it'll be primer and white gloss enamel.

I feel that I'll be building the hull twice...once in wood and once in resin. I don't really have the facilities for this so that's why the next project, a Colin Archer, has an ABS hull. Not really 'correct' to build a CA without a wooden hull but it's got to be ready formed ABS -or nothing- after the Fisher project. I'll probably start up some Colin Archer work while resin on the Fisher hull is hardening but, I won't bore everyone (who?) with build info' or photos of a boat everyone has seen a hundred times already.

Will post a Fisher-photo when the hull is white!

George

gecon23/06/2020 16:59:44
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Well, hull is now white-ish. Given first coat of epoxy primer. Never used this before so was a bit surprised that it did not flow out like paint...nor like the previous coats of epoxy. The product I'm using is -as in some of my previous layers of gumf- usually used in full size fibreglass yachts. Tim will no doubt recognise these properties from his experienceswith the 'real thing' whereas I'm surprised almost every time I mix a 2-pot of something-or-other!

2nd coat goes on -without sanding- in 4 hours. After that, it's up to the gods. I'll be sanding down and applying a coat of standard (yachting -quality) enamel undercoat. I'll just have to see what happens and sand it all off again if it's a mess.

George

gecon02/07/2020 09:55:02
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Got a bit 'hung up' on fitting out the dinghy for the forthcoming Colin Archer. Had not planned so many small details for this dinghy but surprisingly I enjoyed myself. Developing glaucoma in right eye is a nuisance when working on small details. Anyway today it's back to 'large' details....sanding down the white epoxy primer and then the first coat of white primer is going onto the Fisher hull.

I don't expect the hull will look much different until the topcoat is on and the side cappings and rubbing strakes are in place. Off to produce som white dust on the balcony floor!...+looks of disapproval from the Admiralty.

George

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