A winter build from westbourne models
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While on a w/e break in dorset I decided to visit westbourne models and try and find a ship to build with a little bit of a challenge to it. Now, as I have never built this type of ship in wood I have many many years of building behind me. So this is the one I chose, cpt cooks ship, endeavour. I hope to create a build blog over the coming months,but my main reason for doing it is the fact that I will more than likely be needing lots of help. What better place to look than on this forum site. I have looked online but cant seem to find any previous blogs regarding this ship. so hopefully there will be lots of advice and help right here. They say nothing is simple in life, we shall soon see
|Colin Bishop||12/11/2015 12:49:10|
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We will look forward with interest to your progress. If you do get stuck then I'm sure you will get plenty of advice - hopefully not too contradictory!
The kit does make up into a nice model.
|Peter Fitness||12/11/2015 21:06:08|
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I will certainly look forward to your progress as the Endeavour has a very special place in Australian history.
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Thanks both, peter, 1 reason for this ship is that my aunty has lived there since the 10 bob boats went over in the 60`s. she bought me a book "capt. cooks 3 voyages" when I was 10. brilliant book but I cant find it anywhere. What I cant understand is why there is a lack of build blogs on this ship. I may be wrong but I cant find much on this subject online.
Reading the instructions, there is a list of tools required for the build. I have 90% of them but I do need needle files. I have looked in the expo catalogue and seen diamond and steel needle files. packs of 5 or 10 and also available single. Can you or colin advise on what to buy? I also need david plane blades, these seem like gold dust to me. I am hoping to get most things from 1 supplier to save on postage. Also, will I need a building jig? All my r/c models have been built without 1 and the hulls have all come out true to form. The advice from the very helpful Westbourne models shop was no. but I have my doubts.
|Dave Milbourn||13/11/2015 09:19:00|
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I recently bought some David blades from an E-Bay supplier, then found another whose P&P was far less! Expo are at the expensive end of the market; you can buy the same or very similar items for a lot less. These folk are at many of the model shows and their stuff seems good quality **LINK**
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I think you may find what you are looking for rin the way of Endeavour build logs (including the Calrdecraft kit) over on the Model Ship World forum (**LINK**). Please note that you need to sign up as a forum member before they'll let you see most of the content, including build logs. I am a member over t here, too, although so far not at all active, however from what I've seen it is one of the main places to be for static age-of-sail ship modelling.
As for needle flies, you may have noticed that the multi file sets tend to cost more or the less the same for five or ten as what you pay for a single one of the ones sold as separate items. The old saying is true, I think: you basically tend to get what you pay for! The question therefore becomes one of how good do I need my tools to be?
Personally, I confess to a severe case of tool fetischism, and have thus invested fairly heavily in a good collection of Vallorbe needle files, and have found them to be just as good as they ought be be at the price! That said, I don't think that the less expensive sets would be all that bad, either, and they would set you back rather less. I would perhaps be a tad wary of the 10-for-a-fiver sets, but the £15 or so Klein file sets I think might strike a happy medium.
Another thing I have found, too, is that 95 % of the time I use only three shapes of needle file: pillar (i.e. basic flat), round (rattail) and triangular, so limiting the number of shapes one buys can put the more expensive individual files better within financial reach.
One of the most complete one-stop shops for needle files in the UK is Shesto (**LINK**), who I believe are the whole sale suppliers for most of the specialist model vendors, although you will also find a good assortment at i.a. Cornwall Model Boats, The Shipwright Shop and The Model Dockyard.
A word of caution, though, concerning needle files: once you've used one on white metal, it will be almost useless on wood! Not because it won't bite, but because it will stain the wood. I therefore keep two sets of files: one for white metal only, and one for wood and other materials.
I also have a few miniature needle files as sold by Eskader in Stockholm: **LINK**. These are about half the size of standard needle files, which sometimes can be very handy. However, I don't think that you particularly need those for your Endeavour project; I just wanted to mention them for the sake of completeness.
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|Colin Bishop||13/11/2015 10:07:45|
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Instructions hould be good but if you have not already seen/got it then the Anatomy of the Ship Endeavour book would be worth investing nt. It has been out a while so you could probably find it second hand.
|Peter Fitness||13/11/2015 22:01:18|
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Here are some photos of the replica Endeavour, which may give you some inspiration. I took the shots in Darling Harbour, Sydney, back in 2009. I was lucky enough to go on board the ship on a previous visit to Sydney, but I didn't have a camera with me on that occasion. We also saw Endeavour in Greenwich, London, on a visit to the UK in 1997.
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firstly, may i apologise for not posting anything, fact is I have not been able to do alot. After receiving many months of treatment my partner had some devastating news to tell me. We are both trying to come to terms with it so my time will be spent mostly with her and not in my workshop. we live in hope as they say.
Right back to it then, to say I am a bit dissapointed with the kit so far.
1/ written instructions say to glue bulkheads in place first then the walnut keel. however plan sheet 1 shows the opposite sequence. I decided to follow the written instructions. The laser cut slots needed about 30 mins. work opening up the slots for an easy fit. Alot of time for all those b/heads.
2/ the walnut keel when fitted leaves a gap of about 3/16" which will need filling. I was hoping to just use clear varnish,but now with filler I will probably need to stain it.
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Once I had all b/heads and keel fitted it was time for the deck. Now, the b/heads have small noggings sticking up to slot into corresponding slots in the deck. These noggings are 5mm x 5mm. The slots in the deck are 10mm x 8mm !!!.When I placed the decks down they could obviously move 3mm fore/aft as the length of them was also short. The only thing I could do is make sure the mast hole and mast slot in b/head alligned. I then added strips of ply so that the decks were flush with b/head faces. The instructions also state that the decks are sanded back flush with the outsides of the b/heads ready for 1st planking.hardly in my case, they were barely wide enough to reach that far.
One important point, care needs to be taken that the bow deck is placed the correct way up. There is 1 hatch cutout. This needs to be placed so that the hatch is on the port side. I very nearly placed it upside down therefore putting it starboard. Luckily I managed to get the anatomy of the ship from the library and checked first. The instructions dont mention this.
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