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Brian Dickinson 123/07/2018 19:37:47
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You right Gareth. I am a member of the Northwales model engineering group who have there track a further 200 yards along the beach.

I have seen lots of old postcards showing model yachts being sailed on the pool and I am glad that still happens.

There won't be many scenic locations like that one


Malcolm Frary24/07/2018 09:51:33
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Posted by Tony Hadley on 23/07/2018 15:37:45:


Some years ago, when the MM398 vane gear was made, I was considering building the MM631 Moving Carriage vane. The advice was to avoid the moving carriage unit unless it was for a larger boat, such as an 'A' Class. The Moving Carriage unit needs a large boat due to it's weight and whether this would apply to one made with modern materials, I don't know. Although I have never seen one of these, I understand it is a superb piece of engineering.

My vane unit, earlier in this thread was silver soldered (access to workshop facilities then), whether this is overkill for normal lake sailing again, I just don't know. There could be a strength issue, but at the time I had the occasional trip to Fleetwood or Fairhaven which were sea water and the advice was to use silver solder. Had a discussion with Malcolm Frary who had a model with a soft soldered rudder which he has sailed in sea water lakes for many years without any problems.

In the thread, Vic Smeeds Model Boat Designs, #23 shows two small designs for half sized Marblehead models, Sea Urchin and Waterbaby. These plans show a small vane gear which would be suitable for smaller yachts.

A disclaimer - the soft soldered rudder was on a Lindberg trawler, nothing like the forces involved on a sailboat. And there was a layer of paint between the solder and salt water. Putting a lot of force through a small contact area does need the basic strength of silver solder.

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