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Thread: TYNE Class Lifeboat build
03/09/2020 22:17:58

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03/09/2020 22:15:57

The TYNE folding mast has come on a bit since the last set of photos of the basic radar trap.

I'll just show the progress in photos except to say that the main mast was constructed using brass tod, plastic tubing preformed plaststruct square section moulding, and the pieste' résistance was an inspiration of Neil Huyton which was the cross bar for the DF arial.It was made from Neil's idea of a star servo arm. The holes I will fill with plasticine [ it paints very well and doesn't need sanding flat like filler.And the receiving aerials will be cut to length before gluing in place. The mast will, once I fit the brackets for the hydraulic rams, be completely folding.img_6281.jpg

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02/09/2020 14:46:59
Posted by gecon on 02/09/2020 07:15:28:

Beautifull work Niel,

I thought I was 'scratch building' until I started following your thread/s. Soon realised I was only just 'scratching ' at the surface.

I'm a bit like Ashley, after about an hour of 'scratching' I wonder if I should try to find an easier way and scratch my head agian! Usually end up restarting what I first thought of.

Regards, George

thank you for your kind words, I had a good teacher 61 years ago and apart from an interest in classic cars and motorcycles, I have inly ever had this one hobby in all those years......other things just don't interest me,

and TBH in those 61 years I have spent a lifetime honing my skills and developing that level of patience to get it right in the end.

02/09/2020 00:02:46

radar platform, light platform and mast are on their way to being fabricated.....these will be finished tomorrow

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01/09/2020 17:20:17

the main mast including the "backbone" for the main mast have all been soldered together now.

on with the radar platform and the main mast light platform tonight.

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01/09/2020 12:01:47

ohhh yes, Ashley, I also use golf teas as air/fog horns...…...

problem is i'm not a golfer and so have to go hunting on the golf course after dark with a torch for them when needed, lol.....only way I can avoid getting hit by golf balls lol.

31/08/2020 21:22:36
today, I set too, cutting the tubing and solid pieces for the main mast on the tyne.two and a half hours cutting and filing to length and just 15 minutes to silver solder all parts together.I'll finish it tomorrow by fitting the brackets and lugs to take the rams for folding down, and then on to the radar and light platforms
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img_6261.jpgEdited By neil howard-pritchard on 31/08/2020 21:24:54

Edited By neil howard-pritchard on 31/08/2020 21:39:48

30/08/2020 15:07:43

the lengths one goes to for photos to build...…...and all things go tits up.

on Friday, I went to Glasson Dock to see if the Tyne lifeboat had gone in to the water yet...….errr NO!

Last night a picture appeared on Lifeboat Enthusiasts, showing that she had gone back into the basin either Friday afternoon or Saturday [ yesterday].I have asked permission of the poster if I can put it on here, and waiting for a reply.

so this morning to get some deck level and possibly even inside cabin photos of her.

pulled up at the spot where the photo of her was taken yesterday...…….the old girl had done a disappearing act,,,,,,,or were my eyes and brain deceiving me and I hadn't seen the photo last night. got around to the marina, parked up and started walking to the marina office when a guy said to me pointing to the Mersey emblem on my fleece...………"one like that went through the locks and out to sea about 90 minutes ago"...….

jeese….. I couldn't believe it, 18 bloody months i'd wanted to photograph her deck level.so went to the docks marina office to ask where she had gone.

"Lytham" was the answer.."to the museum" they said.

so, I thought...…..trip down to the creek at Lytham...….she might be tied up against one of the berths...….

drove down to Lytham and the "creek" was all locked up behind steel gates.

the RNLI Lifeboat station I thought, there's a small jetty there, she might be berthed up against that!...…..of along a visitor packed prom and parked up close to the station, where [I thought] fortuitously the main doors to the station were open, and I thought I would ask. one guy was busying himself detaching the charging leads to the D TYPE as I started to chat, and he said can't talk now mate...…….as I realised they were on a shout.[hope you guys got there in time and I didn't hinder you too much].

so I went up on the prom and looked out towards the estuary entrance to find the Voluntary Worker being tied up to a river mooring.

thwarted again...….will I ever get photos of her fore cabin aft section and interior!...…..what a waste of motoring time and diesel.

so all I managed to get was her mooring up at the mouth of the Ribble, in a few distant shots.

the quality of photos isn't the best, but she was about half a mile from where I stood, with only a little cannon point and shoot camera

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29/08/2020 16:45:48
Posted by Bob Abell on 29/08/2020 11:42:10:

Very nice Neil

I like your attention to detail

Bob

thank you bob..….

the plates are now sporting the new brackets. these were made from slices of the plastic oval tube that comes as a weight in the bottom of a roller blind............the exact size to locate the life ring.

like they say on Blue peter...…..here's a life ring I made earlier.

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28/08/2020 23:55:18
plasticard out tonight......
made the backing plates for the life ring brackets which attach to the stanchions.
you might think I have gone mad making 3 pairs...……..NO lifeboat of modern fast era carried 6 lifebelts as far as I know, on deck....
NO!!!
Seeing as certain modellers have worked a fast one on me and I am now building [ or should I say renovating] a certain members Mersey class lifeboat, and another person of repute[or should that be ill-repute] has asked me to fabricate the rear end of his new cabin as well, I thought I would whilst making one set, make all three sets.
took a rough tracing from the plans I had and then offered it up to a picture of the plate from a Tyne that I enlarged on screen.
marked the positions of the holes, and tomorrow I will find some tubing to use as the brackets which hold the life ring to the plate.
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26/08/2020 18:45:19

cant help the way the hull looks Bob...……..they were built to withstand hurricane force weather, and did many times in their lives.

25/08/2020 21:35:12

that didn't take long...…...already had the brass rod annealed and ready to go.

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25/08/2020 20:53:08

small detailing is what goes to make a big impact.

the toe rails have had their "feet" fitted. I used small grommits that come with servos in accessory packs...………..never use them on servos so collect and use for just such events.

then o marked and drilled the deck to take them port and starboard. they are NOT equidistant as they follow the positions of the stanchions.

however, just looking at the pictures of the real boats...…………..I have missed two across the stern of the boat...…...so will rectify that in the next hour.

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25/08/2020 16:34:48

cheers George.

I was given a part built model of the 1;15 scale Colin Archer by the widow of a friend, but sadly although I was always interested in the model, it had been started, and there were more repairs to do than building.

my friend had built the parts whilst in the mid stages of dementia.

so I sold it at the Blackpool show and all proceeds went to the RNLI in his name.

you should get it built...….apparently they sail well.

neil.

25/08/2020 01:38:05
I started off the day well with the first half of some moulds for small fittings for the Tyne and a few generic ones for the Mersey to cast. by lunchtime I was ready to mould the second half of them.
I couldn't find the Vaseline for the release agent and so tried "painting" on to the half of rubber already moulded some ordinary vegetable oil used for frying...…...what an absolute wizard of a trick...…….worked even better than Vaseline.
however this is where the euphoria was burst and the bubble blown..... I ran out of silicone rubber halfway through the pour, and so my last mould was only half finished,
ok so I thought, I'll order some from my usual supplier on next day delivery...……… "sorry, but the shop is closed for holidays" came the answer...….sod me!
i hope that they are just on holiday and not ceased trading...…...as that mould contains all my stations for moulding.
i had to contend myself with making the toe guard looped rails on the gunwale edges of the deck...……..not the best of days, i'm afraid.
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23/08/2020 16:42:25
Posted by Bob Abell on 23/08/2020 13:33:22:

Nice video, Neil

What happens to the obsolete lifeboats?

It seems a shame to scrap them

Bob

the lifeboats are never scrapped Bob...…...but sold out of service to other lifesaving associations, pilot boats, company enterprises, forein countries as SAR boats ..CHINA and ICELAND and AUSTRALIA being countries buying them......NEDLOYD ship these lifeboats to other countries using them for SAR free of charge as deck cargo on their container ships. our own Tyne was bought by a group up in malaig and Oban, Scotland and is part charter and part "Ambulance" launch for medivac purposes in the outer Hebridean islands when the weather is too rough for helicopter evacuation. one Tyne has been bought by the Royal navy and is down in Portsmouth or Plymouth [ cant remember which] and others just sold for private ownership....the one at Galgate near Lancaster is privately owned, and a Tyne will cost you around 80 - 120000 quid.....but incredibly well looked after in the RNLI

THE NEXT GROUP to be sold off will be the smaller Mersey class lifeboat, as these are now also being retired from fleet, and quickly.

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23/08/2020 12:27:08
Posted by Bob Abell on 23/08/2020 08:08:22:

Thank you, Neil, for the Feast of Lifeboats display

You could be called a Lifeboat Junkie?

I was invited to have a trip on the Holyhead Lifeboat, many years ago, but had to decline due to my self survival instinct. Can`t remember the reason for the offer

Your latest model looks quite dated and looks like one step up from the boats with a wooden shed at each end?

Would that be a sensible assessment?

I like the quality of the build, very business like

Bob ........Out on a shout

you should have gone on that trip Bob, there is nothing more exhilarating than standing on the deck of a lifeboat under full song, and you wouldn't get a safer boat to sail on. Nowadays, there are so many HSR reasons and forms to fill that one never gets a chance these days unless its a corporate day aimed at local businesses for donations to the local station.

in their day the TYNE was a very advanced boat, and other than the inflatable ribs was the fastest boat in the fleet at 18 -20 knots. The first called City of London 47-001, paid for by an appeal in London cost £420,000 and went on station at Selsey in 1982, but were light years ahead of the old double ended classic lifeboats of the earlier years.

they TYNES are all retired now and sold out of service having been superseded by such boats as the TRENT, SEVERN, TAMAR and the latest boat, the water jet drive SHANNON class lifeboat as seen in the photos above. these boats just mentioned ate all capable of doing 25 knots or a little more if pushed.

The Shannon costs £2.5 million to build, BUT  the best sounding lifeboat ever is without doubt, the TYNE class lifeboat with her twin V6 two stroke Detroit diesel engines, as used basically in the Sherman tank of WW2.

IF YOU have youtube, just listen to this, the final trip of the last RNLI TYNE LIFEBOAT leaving station last year.those engines are the sound of God waking the world up with a corus of heavenly music. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8phZqbnJFY

 

 

Edited By neil howard-pritchard on 23/08/2020 12:32:38

23/08/2020 00:27:04

funnily enough I rejected someone tonight on one of those forums as admin

...3796 friends, 128 other forums, none of which were either that which I could read as was in Arabic, or none model boating jenre, and yet was a serial poster of adverts on other forums,

so was blocked from joining!.

22/08/2020 22:14:24

don't think he's on here Fred....he is on a couple of model lifeboat forums on Facebook......one is called RNLI RC LIFEBOATS and the other is model lifeboat enthusiasts.

but you'll have to request membership...….but the admin usually accept anyone unless they think or suspect the person is a scammer. usually that shows in the profile....dead give away is they have hundreds of "friends" and member of also hundreds of forums nothing to do with modelling or where they usually try selling products nothing to do with modelling at all.....can usually spot them a mile off

22/08/2020 19:01:15

he's a good friend of mine Fred...…….lives in deepest wales...…….but I don't hold that against him....

he's been a professional car body repairer and sprayer for many many years, and good at it too. he sprayed my Shannon for me 2 years ago. he does now and then take on spraying commissions so I believe and his work is top notch.

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