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Thread: Fibreglass hull id
10/04/2022 11:46:40


Just an afterthought, what happened to the moulding masters when Alan packed up? were they destroyed, sold?

10/04/2022 11:03:48

Thanks Tony,

Strangely, or not, I think the piece was copied word for word into the book about Normans work, Kind of whats comes around goes around. I think that there was very little research and documentation done outside of Ough's and MacGregor's work so many thanks to them and to SS Great Britain Trust for digitising the plans for everyones future access and use.



09/04/2022 18:33:13

Well today was a productive day, I emailed the SS Great Britain Trust and Victoria sent me david-macgregor-ship-plans-collection-july-2013.pdf from which I was able to find a couple of plans, one 1:12 scale stable by Norman Ough and one fragile but annotated by David MacGregor, I also found some photos that will help plus a link to a 1:12th scale live steam one which will help me with layout.


world-war-picket-boat-model-live_1_aacee9ed39208d26ed8d5e6d6360e0e9 (1).jpg

So I'll have plenty to go on. laugh



08/04/2022 18:31:55

Thank you John, the 'plan' is coming together wink

Just remembered I've got that book!

Edited By Roger Clark on 08/04/2022 19:31:21

08/04/2022 17:45:47

John, thank you, you are a star smiley

The evidence trail starts, I just need to find the original and it seems his plan collection was donated to the ss great britain trust. Now it could be a problem after my attemps to retreive some J K N class destroyer plans.... and failed knowing that they do have them.

Hey ho, any further will be very appreciated.

Many thanks


08/04/2022 10:35:56

Hi Ray,

Thanks, I have been lurking but with big health issues for me and the missus I haven't felt much like joining in or modelling. sad

I think I might have misled you, the hull was originally purchased as one for a victorian naval steam picket boat for the buyer to build as a 1919 steam river launch. When I got it it had a horrible ugly homebuilt steam plant on it which had never been tested.

What I fancy doing is to build to the original design but I can't find anything that resembles the hull shape at all! I don't think the hull has been modified in the overall shape so I'm really looking for what ABCO(UK) had in mind as they must have had an original boat/plans to work to.



07/04/2022 15:37:38

I have a boat which was built as a steam river launch which I want to find out more information as to the original design as a victorian naval steam picket boat.

steam yacht cropped.jpg

It was supplied by ABCO(UK) Ltd in March 1983, which no longer exists!

I've Googled & giggled at some of the results especially on photo comparison and haven't found anything remotly resembling this hull, from what I can see it hasn't been modified or remodelled so I'm a bit stuck.

I would like to re-build it as a picket boat if possible.


Thread: what are these!?
26/12/2020 20:53:56
Posted by neil howard-pritchard on 26/12/2020 17:48:39:

i was given this extremely lovely [ for a person with no knowledge of such things] steam plant by a dear friend of mine and a retired staff coxs'n of Fleetwoods RNLI Lifeboat, with the condition that i was to put it into a model boat and get it sailing.

Because of covid and other things, the boiler/engine has sat on my window sill as an ornament for the last 18 months, but i have finally worked out that i am going to build a very special lifeboat for it to go into.

However, i have a problem.

1] i haven't a clue as to how it all goes together or what certain parts are.

i know what this bit is, and where it goes,


and i know what these two bits are..



and i know what the tank is as i just opened the valve and got a sniff of some nice butane,


but what is this bit that slots into the burner hole at the end of the boiler the gas burner, connects to the gas tank



and what is this bit that stands vertical on its own base with the pipes' Condenser, connects the the engine exhaust and probably to the pipe in the chimney and takes the oil out of the used steam.


2] what is the lever with the servo type holes drilled in to it for on the side of the engine at present in a horizontal position, and at present turns a full 360....what does it do? Throttle - go faster in forward and reverse.

3] how does it all go together? Gas tank to burner, boiler connected to engine, exhaust to condensor, condensor to pipe going up chimney.

4] is it a Cheddar boiler and engine? Probably but Richard Simpson could confirm.

5] and how does which bit go where? Gas tank forward with easy access preferably easy removeable for filling (not best idea to fill in boat), Boiler in centre of boat with condenser close by.

6] and finally, what length of narrow beamed "axe" type bow boat would it be able to push along, if linked to a gear box propelling 2 x 4 blade propellers.

thank you all you steam buffs for any info you can give.

Edited By neil howard-pritchard on 26/12/2020 17:53:13

A bit like mine, the gas tank is in the bows.

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Hope this helps, the condensor is on the other side of the boat, I'll get some more photos tomorrow.


Thread: FREE Bespoke Model of WWII HMS Diamond
05/09/2020 13:23:23

Jason, read your PMs (personal messages), they're in the inbox at the top after you've logged in.



04/09/2020 15:24:27

Hi Jason, it would help if you gave the location of the model.



Thread: Machine Tools
03/09/2020 22:25:39


if the Wolf Cub works for you, keep it! I also have a pillar drill that my father restored in the early '70s, it must be older than me but it weighs a 'ton' and never lets me down.

For the type of modelling we do (unless you plan to build locos or traction engines) a mini lathe and mini mill can be bought for £1500 along with a reasonable assortment of tools and cutters, the only proviso I would put on that is make sure the motors are brushless and the mill is belt driven, not gears, they can strip in a jam as they are plastic.



28/08/2020 15:34:33

Hi Dave C,

Difficult to advise unless you can give an idea of what you want to create with your proposed new tools.indecision

Firstly I would say go for new unless you have a competent engineer with you to look at and test used equipment. Decide on what you want to build, marine steam engines, locos, traction engines et al, that will then give you the size of machinery required. Don't buy off Ebay unless you can go and check/test the machine or have money to burn. angry

Set yourself a budget for your machine purchase and allow about 50% extra for buying the tools and extra bits required, milling bits, lathe cutting tools, measuring tools & gauges, consumables (oil and metal).

Myself, I have a chinese mini lathe and mini mill, they both have been good for my needs most of the time but I have been pushed to do the odd jobs on them, but I do have a circa 1937 Denham Junior lathe weighing 3/4 ton which will turn 15" dia stuff and access to a Bridgeport mill as well.

If you look to buy new then Chester machine tools, Warco or Arc Eurotrade both seem to have good reputations (amongst others). Eurotrade would be my first preference as all my transactions with them have been first rate with good honest advice (no backhanders here) devil.



Thread: Ship Repair
20/08/2020 11:45:02

Trois Mats Barque is just a generic name for that type of ship so finding an exact replacement woudl be near impossible.

You could drill the 2 broken parts and insert a loose metal peg with plenty of epoxy type glue and hold it in position until the glue sets and you should have an invisible joint. Otherwise you would need to buy a length of dowel and fashion to size.

Other than that put some holes in the sails and hull and say it's been in battle devil



Thread: Smoke unit
20/08/2020 11:33:53

Try **LINK**, not used them myself



Thread: Wanted - Veron Dolphin
15/07/2020 18:31:23
Posted by Dave Milbourn on 14/07/2020 18:54:02:


You probably already know that this kit was introduced in 1952 and that Veron ceased to trade in the early 80's so the chances of finding a kit are round about zero. However Phil Smith's son does have an archive of many of his Dad's designs and he might be able to supply a plan. Here's a link Vintage Models

Dave M

Sorry to drop in on this thread but thanks Dave smiley, I now have the plans for my part built Damen Stantug coming yippee laugh, yet another missing link for my part-built donations ticked off.



Thread: Lady Jan steam tug
05/07/2020 10:51:13

Hi Mark, Lovely boat, you should be proud of your dad smiley. Like Bob and Ray said you absolutely must join a club, make sure they have a boiler tester, commercial testers will cost you much money, and being in a club will benefit you with knowledge, experience and third party insurance which you must have if you float your boat anywhere that the public has access to.

If you give your location there may be some who can advise on a suitable club, not all model boat clubs have boiler inspectors but model engineering clubs generally do and some have a boating fraternity as well.

I would be surprised if a condenser tank wasn't on board, they are used to extract the steam oil before the steam goes up the chimney and into the environment, some clubs require this. In saying this the pipework looks quite complex and your dad would not be returning exhaust steam back into a water tank as you wouldn't want oil going into the boiler. Needs further investigation.



Edited By Roger Clark on 05/07/2020 11:00:28

Thread: Look what's just docked!
28/06/2020 11:01:10

Yes, definitely not a mantelpiece job, would need the nest of tables that we have and her flowers have that reserved. sad


28/06/2020 10:12:07

I'll answer the second question first Ashley...... NO smiley

As to the first I didn't know that pirates dressed like that as most of the historical features I've seen he could be anyone in period dress, i.e. a merchant or captain or anybody who wishes to dress like that.

It's just a bit of fun Ashley

It is well detailed, some of the trunks hold servos, He's put an ACTION unit in for a whistle, the lantern has an led in it. The last job to do is to add a mini servo to operate his drinking arm devil

The idea of displaying it in house has been torpedoed, hit the rocks, crashed and burned, sank without trace, not having that smelly thing in my house and that's final (wife's logical discussion with me laugh)! crying



Edited By Roger Clark on 28/06/2020 10:22:20

25/06/2020 19:01:05

No Ashley, I carry those to fend off the unwashed!devillaugh



25/06/2020 11:27:26

As my wife is 70 today I have a very valid argument for using her name Ray, she's always huffing and puffing and letting off steam devillaugh.

Jolly Roger would elicit too many comments that I would prefer not to hear, most of them from my wife.crying



Edited By Roger Clark on 25/06/2020 11:30:08

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