Member postings for Roger Clark

Tony,

Just an afterthought, what happened to the moulding masters when Alan packed up? were they destroyed, sold?

Thanks Tony,

Strangely, or not, I think the piece was copied word for word into the book about Normans work, Kind of whats comes around goes around. I think that there was very little research and documentation done outside of Ough's and MacGregor's work so many thanks to them and to SS Great Britain Trust for digitising the plans for everyones future access and use.

Regards

Roger

Well today was a productive day, I emailed the SS Great Britain Trust and Victoria sent me david-macgregor-ship-plans-collection-july-2013.pdf from which I was able to find a couple of plans, one 1:12 scale stable by Norman Ough and one fragile but annotated by David MacGregor, I also found some photos that will help plus a link to a 1:12th scale live steam one which will help me with layout.

So I'll have plenty to go on.

Regards

Roger

Thank you John, the 'plan' is coming together

Just remembered I've got that book!

Edited By Roger Clark on 08/04/2022 19:31:21

John, thank you, you are a star

The evidence trail starts, I just need to find the original and it seems his plan collection was donated to the ss great britain trust. Now it could be a problem after my attemps to retreive some J K N class destroyer plans.... and failed knowing that they do have them.

Hey ho, any further info.photos will be very appreciated.

Many thanks

Roger

Hi Ray,

Thanks, I have been lurking but with big health issues for me and the missus I haven't felt much like joining in or modelling.

I think I might have misled you, the hull was originally purchased as one for a victorian naval steam picket boat for the buyer to build as a 1919 steam river launch. When I got it it had a horrible ugly homebuilt steam plant on it which had never been tested.

What I fancy doing is to build to the original design but I can't find anything that resembles the hull shape at all! I don't think the hull has been modified in the overall shape so I'm really looking for what ABCO(UK) had in mind as they must have had an original boat/plans to work to.

Cheers

Roger

I have a boat which was built as a steam river launch which I want to find out more information as to the original design as a victorian naval steam picket boat.

It was supplied by ABCO(UK) Ltd in March 1983, which no longer exists!

I've Googled & giggled at some of the results especially on photo comparison and haven't found anything remotly resembling this hull, from what I can see it hasn't been modified or remodelled so I'm a bit stuck.

I would like to re-build it as a picket boat if possible.

Roger

A bit like mine, the gas tank is in the bows.

Hope this helps, the condensor is on the other side of the boat, I'll get some more photos tomorrow.

Roger

Jason, read your PMs (personal messages), they're in the inbox at the top after you've logged in.

Regards

Roger

Hi Jason, it would help if you gave the location of the model.

Regards

Roger

Dave,

if the Wolf Cub works for you, keep it! I also have a pillar drill that my father restored in the early '70s, it must be older than me but it weighs a 'ton' and never lets me down.

For the type of modelling we do (unless you plan to build locos or traction engines) a mini lathe and mini mill can be bought for £1500 along with a reasonable assortment of tools and cutters, the only proviso I would put on that is make sure the motors are brushless and the mill is belt driven, not gears, they can strip in a jam as they are plastic.

Regards

Roger

Hi Dave C,

Difficult to advise unless you can give an idea of what you want to create with your proposed new tools.

Firstly I would say go for new unless you have a competent engineer with you to look at and test used equipment. Decide on what you want to build, marine steam engines, locos, traction engines et al, that will then give you the size of machinery required. Don't buy off Ebay unless you can go and check/test the machine or have money to burn.

Set yourself a budget for your machine purchase and allow about 50% extra for buying the tools and extra bits required, milling bits, lathe cutting tools, measuring tools & gauges, consumables (oil and metal).

Myself, I have a chinese mini lathe and mini mill, they both have been good for my needs most of the time but I have been pushed to do the odd jobs on them, but I do have a circa 1937 Denham Junior lathe weighing 3/4 ton which will turn 15" dia stuff and access to a Bridgeport mill as well.

If you look to buy new then Chester machine tools, Warco or Arc Eurotrade both seem to have good reputations (amongst others). Eurotrade would be my first preference as all my transactions with them have been first rate with good honest advice (no backhanders here) .

Regards

Roger

Trois Mats Barque is just a generic name for that type of ship so finding an exact replacement woudl be near impossible.

You could drill the 2 broken parts and insert a loose metal peg with plenty of epoxy type glue and hold it in position until the glue sets and you should have an invisible joint. Otherwise you would need to buy a length of dowel and fashion to size.

Other than that put some holes in the sails and hull and say it's been in battle

Regards

Roger

Try **LINK**, not used them myself

Regards

Roger

Sorry to drop in on this thread but thanks Dave , I now have the plans for my part built Damen Stantug coming yippee , yet another missing link for my part-built donations ticked off.

Regards

Roger

Hi Mark, Lovely boat, you should be proud of your dad . Like Bob and Ray said you absolutely must join a club, make sure they have a boiler tester, commercial testers will cost you much money, and being in a club will benefit you with knowledge, experience and third party insurance which you must have if you float your boat anywhere that the public has access to.

If you give your location there may be some who can advise on a suitable club, not all model boat clubs have boiler inspectors but model engineering clubs generally do and some have a boating fraternity as well.

I would be surprised if a condenser tank wasn't on board, they are used to extract the steam oil before the steam goes up the chimney and into the environment, some clubs require this. In saying this the pipework looks quite complex and your dad would not be returning exhaust steam back into a water tank as you wouldn't want oil going into the boiler. Needs further investigation.

Regards

Roger

Edited By Roger Clark on 05/07/2020 11:00:28

Yes, definitely not a mantelpiece job, would need the nest of tables that we have and her flowers have that reserved.

Roger

I'll answer the second question first Ashley...... NO

As to the first I didn't know that pirates dressed like that as most of the historical features I've seen he could be anyone in period dress, i.e. a merchant or captain or anybody who wishes to dress like that.

It's just a bit of fun Ashley

It is well detailed, some of the trunks hold servos, He's put an ACTION unit in for a whistle, the lantern has an led in it. The last job to do is to add a mini servo to operate his drinking arm 

The idea of displaying it in house has been torpedoed, hit the rocks, crashed and burned, sank without trace, not having that smelly thing in my house and that's final (wife's logical discussion with me )! 

Regards

Roger

Edited By Roger Clark on 28/06/2020 10:22:20

No Ashley, I carry those to fend off the unwashed!

Regards

Roger

As my wife is 70 today I have a very valid argument for using her name Ray, she's always huffing and puffing and letting off steam .

Jolly Roger would elicit too many comments that I would prefer not to hear, most of them from my wife.

Regards

Roger

Edited By Roger Clark on 25/06/2020 11:30:08